From Nicole on the anniversary of the Subic rape

Isang taon na ang nakalipas mula nang ako ay ginahasa at tinapon ng mga Amerikanong sundalo sa tabi ng daan na parang baboy. Sa araw na ito noong nakaraang taon, pumunta ako sa Subic kasama ang aking mga kapatid para magbakasyon. Noon, punong-puno ako ng buhay at pag-asa sa aking kinabukasan. Noon, masaya akong nabubuhay kasama ang aking pamilya. Hindi ko akalain na ang aking pagbakasyon sa Subic ay hahantong sa isang trahedya. Sa araw na ito noong nakaraang taon, nagbago ang aking buhay.

Ngayon, matapos ang isang taon, bumalik ako sa Subic. At sa aking pagbabalik, nandito muli ang USS Essex, ang barkong sinakyan ng aking mga rapists na sina Daniel Smith, Chad Carpentier, Dominic Duplantis at Keith Silkwood. Nandito muli ang mga libu-libong Amerikanong sundalo para sa kanilang “rest and recreation.” Muli silang maghahanap ng mga babaeng biktimahin at pagsasamantalahan. Sa araw na ito ilan kaya ang mga babaeng magagahasa gaya ng nangyari sa akin noon. Ilang Nicole kaya ang itatapon ng mga sundalong Amerikano sa tabi ng daan, o iwanan na luray-luray ang kaluluwa’t katawan? Gaano katagal at kalakas na halakhak ang kanilang maririnig samantalang sila ay ginagahasa?

Hindi naging madali ang aking pagsampa ng reklamo laban sa aking mga rapists. At lalong hindi naging mabait sa akin ang sistema nang ako’y magdesisyon na ituloy ang aking kaso. Sa halip na maging kakampi ko sa aking pakikipaglaban, ang ating gobyerno ay gumawa ng mga hakbang na mas lalong nagpahirap sa aking sitwasyon. Wala ni isang pahayag ng suporta ang nanggaling sa ating babaeng Pangulo, samantalang ang Kalihim ng Department of Justice ay paulit-ulit pang pinagtanggol ang aking mga rapists.

Sa halos araw-araw na paglilitis sa Makati Regional Trial Court, aking naranasan ang reyalidad na ang biktima ng panggagahasa ay paulit-ulit pang nagagahasa sa loob at labas ng korte habang siya ay nagkakaso. Sa lahat ng panlalait at paninisi na aking naranasan sa nakaraang taon, tanging ang aking paniniwala sa katotohanan at katarungan at ang suporta ng aking pamilya at kababaihan ang nagpatatag sa akin na hindi sumuko. Ang aking pagpupursigi sa kaso ay nagpapakita ng aking paninindigan na dapat makulong sina Daniel Smith, Chad Carpentier, Keith Silkwood at Dominic Duplantis. Dapat nilang pagdusahan ang kahayupang ginawa nila sa akin. Dapat silang makulong. Dapat maging halimbawa sa buong mundo at sa mga sundalong Amerikano ang pagpaparusa sa kanila.

Sa araw na ito, ako ay sumisigaw ng hustisya!

Subic Freeport Z one
1 November 2006

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215 Comments

  1. EMILY said,

    November 2, 2006 at 1:40 pm

    Nicole, ikaw ba talaga ang gumawa ng blog na ito? Bakit, lahat dinadamay mo? FYI, ikaw lang ang babaeng nag-akusa ng rape sa mga sundalong yan? Halatang halata po na kinukuha mo ang simpatiya ng mga kababaihan lalo na sa mga lugar na may mga base ang mga amerikanong sundalo. Ikaw lang ang nagsasabi na tinapon na parang baboy sa daan. Alam mo, kaya nangyari yan sa iyo, ay dahil ikaw mismo ay walang respeto sa sarili. Ginusto mo yan. Sa dami ng lugar na pwedeng pagbakasyunan, sa mga bar pa ng Subic ang pinuntahan mo. Kaya, di talaga maiiwasan na may mga taong hindi naniniwala sa iyo. All Saints Day, All souls Day, nasan ka? Nasa bar, at nagpapakalasing, sumasayaw ng dirty dance. gawain ba yan ng isang matinong babae? Tapos, sasabihin mo na naman na ” Bakit wala ba akong karapatang magsayaw?” Lahat po ng babae, bata man o matanda, ay may karapatan sumayaw, kaya lang po, ay depende yon sa babae. Kung gusto nya magsayaw at depende sa klase ng sayaw. Napakababaw mo talaga. Hindi ka nakakaawa. Nakakainis ka, siguro, talagang naudyukan ka lang na magsampa ng kasong yan laban sa mga sundalong kano na yon, tapos lahat dinadamay mo. As in, parang lahat ng lalaking kasama ni Smitt, ay gumalaw sa iyo. Wish mo lang! Deep inside you, ayaw mong magsampa ng kaso sa kanila, dahil alam mong ikaw ang may kasalanan sa nangyari sa iyo. At hindi mo talaga makukuha ang simpatiya ng gobyerno, hindi ka naman basta na lang kakampihan ng gobyerno para kunsintihin ang mga akusasyon mo. Kailangan talagang dumaan sa paglilitis at kailangan mong patunayan. Sabagay, nakikita naman ng mga tao ang pagsisikap mo na makulong sila. Kaya lang, obvious talaga, may may nag-uudyok lang sa iyo, kaya hindi mo makuha ang simpatiya ng gobyerno. Kaya nga sila ang nasa pwesto, siguro kung si Melba o yung nanay mo ang nasa gobyernong humahawak ng kaso mo, wala pang isang araw, nabitay na ang mga kanong yon.Yan ang karumal dumal.
    Talagang ganyan sa korte, kung sa pakiramdam mo, ay para kang narereyp ng paulit ulit, ay ikaw pa rin ang may kasalanan jan. Di ba, yan ang gusto mo, ang makulong sila? Hindi talaga maiiwasan sa korte yan. sana ay mapatunayan mo ang mga akusayon mo. Dahil, si smitt ay umamin naman, na may nangyari sa inyo, pero, sabi nya, Consensual sex ang nangyari.
    Im sorry, Nicole, Napakababaw talaga ng mga sinasabi mo, para paniwalaan ng mga tao. Lalo na kaming may mga asawa at fiance na amerikanong sundalo. Mahirap kang paniwalaan.
    Justice for the true victims! Justice for US Marines!

  2. EMILY said,

    November 2, 2006 at 2:05 pm

    Isa pa pala, Bakit ka bumalik jan sa Subic? Para mambiktima na naman ng kano? Tigilan mo na ang pagkukunwari mo. Lalo mo lang pinapababa ang pagkatao mo. Ang babaw mo talaga! Sigurado, wala ka nang mabibiktima sa kanila dahil napakasinungaling mo. Mas maigi pa, kung pursigido kang lumaban ng hindi na kailangan kumuha ng simpatiya ng mga kababaihan, baka mas may maniwala pa sa iyo. Tama yung kaibigan ko, hindi ka nga dapat pag-aksayahan ng oras at panahon. Marami kami dito sa US na nakapag-asawa ng US NAVY ang hindi naniniwala sa iyo. Halos lahat kami na nakapag-asawa ng US Navy ay nanggaling sa mga bar jan sa Subic pero, hindi kami nakaranas ng sinasabi mo, dahil nakikita ng mga sundalo na kahit kami mga bar girl ay may respeto naman kami sa sarili namin, kaya nirerespeto rin nila kami. Hindi tulad mo, sabi mo, hindi ka bargirl,sabi ng nanay mo may pinag-aralan ka, pero wala ka naman respeto sa sarili mo at mas matindi ka pa sa isang bar girl. Di maiigi pang umamin kami na bar girl nga kami, pero hindi kami bastusin na tulad mo. Kaya magpakatotoo ka!

  3. Melba said,

    November 2, 2006 at 2:46 pm

    HIndi madali para sa isang biktima ang sariwain ang malagim na nangyari sa kanya higit sa lahat ang balikan muli ang mismong lunan ng ginawang karahasan.

    Kaya “Nicole” patuloy akong sumasaludo sa tibay, tapang at tatag mo!

    Harinawa’y makamit mo ang hustisya!

  4. emay said,

    November 2, 2006 at 9:12 pm

    Emely,
    Ang sabi mo ay ito:
    “FYI, ikaw lang ang babaeng nag-akusa ng rape sa mga sundalong yan?”

    Iyan na nga ang dahilan kaya mas kailangan ni Nicole ng suporta. Siya lang ang nagkaroon ng lakas ng loob na maghain ng kaso na rape laban sa kanila. Siguro akala nila lahat ng babaeng nire-rape nila ay tatahimik lang. Intindihin mong mabuti ang istorya ng bawat panig, para ma-appreciate mo ang kaso. Sa palagay ko ay isa kang kaibigan o may karelasyon ka sa isa sa kanila kaya mo sila ipinagtatanggol.

    Ako? Nagbabasa lang ako dito sa blog, hindi ko kilala o kamaganak si Nicole.

  5. melba said,

    November 3, 2006 at 12:06 am

    Kung ikaw rin ang hurado emily o maggie o kung sino ka man, kawawa rin ang mga rape victims sa ‘yo… masyado kang bilib sa mga ‘kano bahala nang gahasain ang sinumang babae basta di ka maniniwala.

    Parang si emily at si maggie ay iisang tao lamang, pareho ang pattern ng pagsusulat paulit-ulit basta lang maiparating at maipagmalaki na ok ang kalagayan niya sa piling ng asawang amerikanong sundalo at mapanghusga/mapanglait sa ibang babaeng nagtatrabaho sa mga bars sa subic.

    Eh, hindi nga ganun ang sitwasyon ni “Nicole”. Kung di mo maintindihan ang kaibahan, kawawa ka naman.

  6. TK said,

    November 3, 2006 at 3:16 am

    God Bless You and keep You safe from harm. Not just you but all Filipinas as well.

  7. Owen Bayking said,

    November 3, 2006 at 3:19 am

    Melba, Emay, kun di man kayo si nicole, naiinins na ako sa kabobohan nyo. Di ako asawa ng kano, lalaki ako pero tagal ko rin jan sa SotuhCom, alam ko anong klac mga babae na nagbabar jan at umaga na makaalis…. Mga bobo, nagpapagamit ng manlilinlang, BOBO kayo melba…… BOBO… yan lang masabi ko sa inyo. PLAK!!!

    Pagadian Rocks!

  8. Owen Bayking said,

    November 3, 2006 at 3:20 am

    SouthCom…..

  9. Owen Bayking said,

    November 3, 2006 at 3:20 am

    PLAK…… Pera Lang Katapat…

    Pagadain Rocks…

  10. ericka said,

    November 3, 2006 at 3:29 am

    I’m sorry but i have to respond to what Emay was saying, Emay, I find your logic very funny..

    ” “FYI, ikaw lang ang babaeng nag-akusa ng rape sa mga sundalong yan?”

    Iyan na nga ang dahilan kaya mas kailangan ni Nicole ng suporta. Siya lang ang nagkaroon ng lakas ng loob na maghain ng kaso na rape laban sa kanila. Siguro akala nila lahat ng babaeng nire-rape nila ay tatahimik lang. Intindihin mong mabuti ang istorya ng bawat panig, para ma-appreciate mo ang kaso. Sa palagay ko ay isa kang kaibigan o may karelasyon ka sa isa sa kanila kaya mo sila ipinagtatanggol.

    Ako? Nagbabasa lang ako dito sa blog, hindi ko kilala o kamaganak si Nicole.”

    With this logic of yours we can also use this as a rationalization na if ever my maglalakas ng loob na magsasabi na Mabuti talaga si Satanas at hindi Evil, dapat natin suportahan kung sino man tung taong tu dahil cya lang naglalakas ng loob na nagsasabi ng katotohanan dapat tayo magkaisa sa katotohanan… hahaha. funny … very funny logic indeed…

  11. CYRIL said,

    November 3, 2006 at 3:34 am

    Tol di ba Pagadain is the City of Killings??? Asteeg, nyahaha. Ericka hahaha, tumpak….. True, mga tanga at bobs lang nagpapagamit kai nicole…. Nyahahaha..

    pagdian kills, nyahahaha

  12. melba said,

    November 3, 2006 at 7:54 am

    Southcom is a different area Owen. At kung feel mong bobo ako, ok lang, opinyon mo yan.

    But you must be referring to another person/s, for certainly I am not used by “Nicole” or by anyone. We don’t even know each other personally. If you are not used to women voicing out independent opinion on issues, then brace your self more and more women are beginning to take a stand. And definitely, they are not dumb.

  13. Owen Bayking said,

    November 3, 2006 at 10:29 am

    Kala ko ba sinusundan mo kaso ni nicole? Kala ko ba kompleto ka sa facts tungkol kai Nicole… Di ba taga zamboanga yan si nicole? At ang pamilya nya eh mey canteen or bar pa ata malapit sa SouthCom. Ano bang pinagsasabi mong SouthCom is a different area? Mey relevance ba yan? Sinasabi ko lang kilala ko mga babae jan malapit sa southcom na mahihilig mag bar at umaga na kung makauwi.Alam ko kung ano ano ginagawa ng mga yan. Ano ba edad mo? Di ka pa yata teenager eh, sobrang inocente? or sobra lang talagang kabobohan? hayz… tao nga naman……

    • Orak obama! said,

      September 14, 2009 at 4:03 am

      . wg na kau mgcchan jan ! dahl parepreho rin kaung mga “BOBO!” hahaha .. tang ina nyo ! orak ei u .. wahahaha ü .

  14. melba said,

    November 3, 2006 at 11:39 am

    Pero di mo naman masasabing kilala mo si nicole at isa siya sa mga babaeng nakita mo sa bar. Sa subic nga nangyari, di ba?

    FYI: hindi po lahat ng babaeng pumupunta sa mga bars ay ginagawa ang mga ginawa ng mga babaeng nakilala mo. Unless, isang klase ng bar lang ang pinupuntahan mo.

  15. EMILY said,

    November 3, 2006 at 2:10 pm

    MelBa: hindi po ako si Maggie. Pero magkaibigan kami. Pareho kami nandito sa US, si maggie po ay may asawang US Marine at ako naman po ay fiancee pa lang ng isang US Navy, pero malapit na kami ikasal. Nakilala daw po ni Maggie yung naging asawa nyang US Marine sa Angeles at ako naman ay sa Subic. Si ate Maggie po ang nagturo sa akin ng site na ito. Marami po kaming kakilala at mga naging kaibigan, na may asawa at fiancee ng mga US Navy, US Marine at US Army. At hindi kami naniniwala sa mga sinasabi ni Nicole, na tinapon sya na parang baboy. Marami rin po akong kakilala at kaibigan na mga US Marine at US Navy at alam ko na hindi ganun ang mga kano. Napakaimposibleng hindi sya nagpabayad kay Smitt. May mga babae talaga na hindi naman bar girl pero dumarayo sa may mg US bases tulad ng Clark at Subic at meron pa sa Cavite lalo na pag nalaman nila na may mga dumating na kano para magsanay sa Pilipinas. Mas marami pa ngang nabibiktima ang mga babaeng hindi naman bar girl na tulad ni NIcole at sila yung tinatawag na professional (solo flight) kasi hindi sila mahahagilap pag nakaloko sila ng mga kano. At hindi naman lahat ng bar girl, ay hindi nakapag-aral. Mayroon sa kanila nakatapos sa college at hindi naman hirap sa buhay na tulad Nicole pero mas gusto nila yung magtrabaho sa bar kasi malakas ang kita.
    Hindi ko kilala si Nicole, at totoo yung sinasabi mo na hindi lahat ng pumupunta sa bar ay gumagawa ng tulad ng ginagawa ng isang bar girl. At hindi ko lang maintindihan ay kung bakit si Nicole ay mas malaswa pa ang ginagawa kaysa sa isang bar girl. Wala syang galang sa sarili nya. Siguro isa sya sa tinatawag naming nag sosolo flight, kasi hindi naman sya bar girl , ibig sabihin, solo flight sya. Nagsasariling kita.
    Ericka: Tulad ng sinabi ko, may fiance ako na US Navy. Malapit na kami ikasal dito sa US, wala akong karelasyon sa isa sa mga akusado. Hindi lang talaga ako naniniwala sa sinabi ni Nicole na tinapon sya na parang baboy. Sa katunayan, sya ang may kasalanan, kung hindi sya sumama kay Smitt, hindi sana sila maiiwan ng mga kasama nila papuntang Okinawa Japan. Sya ang nanira ng buhay. Nagbabasa din ako ng blog na ito at hindi ako naniniwala kay Nicole. Isa syang professional solo flight!

  16. emay said,

    November 3, 2006 at 10:30 pm

    Owen Bayking= Kung funny ang post ko, may topak ka! Alam kong na ‘bulls eye’ kita kaya wala sa lugar ang reaction mo.

  17. emay said,

    November 3, 2006 at 10:32 pm

    Own Bayking – ikaw siguro ang PLAKS! Magkano ang bigay sa yo. O inuuto ka rin nila na papuntahin ka sa merika ng libre.

  18. emay said,

    November 3, 2006 at 10:37 pm

    Hoy, Emely! tumigill ka na sa drama mo!

  19. emay said,

    November 3, 2006 at 11:39 pm

    oppppps. Para kay rin Erika pala iyon. Hoy, serious posting ang ginawa ko. Anong funny? Unless sira ang ulo mo rin. Ano nakakuha ka rin ng kano? May pagibig kaya o PLAKS rin ang importante sa yo.

  20. EMILY said,

    November 3, 2006 at 11:56 pm

    emay, nakakatuwa ka naman. Ano ba ang PLAKS? If you ask me kung may pag-ibig, well, ang importante sa akin ngayon ay yung minamahal ako at nirerespeto ng US Navy kong fiance. Syempre kahit naman nakilala nya ako sa isang bar jan sa Subic, hindi raw importante sa kanya yun. Kaya yang si Nicole, irespeto nya yung sarili nya, wag syang pakalat kalat para igalang sya ng mga lalaki at matupad yung pangarap nyang makarating dito sa Amerika.

  21. emay said,

    November 4, 2006 at 1:22 am

    Well, Emily hindi ka ba nagbabasa sa itaas. At palagay ko hindi mo rin binabasa and iba pang statements patungkol dito sa kaso ni Nicole. Plaks ang sinasabi ni Ewan Bakying sa itaas ah. Dinagdagan ko lang ng ‘s’ para ‘saimo’. Hindi ka kaya inaalila lang niyang kano. Marami kasi dito sa amin na iniwan ng kano, ang tawag sa kanila ‘hangang peir lang.’ O di lumabas din sa bibig mo, wala kang pagibig, datung lang at ‘ merika kaya ka sumama sa kano. Hindi lahat ng pinay katulad mo.

    O sige. May pupuntahan pa ako. Ang maid ko na lang ang bahalang sumogot sa yo sa susunod.

  22. melba said,

    November 4, 2006 at 1:50 am

    Emily, magbasa ka muna para makuha mo ang buod ng mga kaganapan ng gabing iyon bago ka manghusga. halatang kulang ang detalye ng mga narinig at nabasa mo.

    To me you still speak the same way as “maggie” so whatever and whoever you are, both of you are misinformed.

  23. emay said,

    November 4, 2006 at 1:54 am

    Sabi ni mam ispelengin ko daw po sa enyo ang plaks. pera lang ang katapat saimo.

  24. Owen Bayking said,

    November 4, 2006 at 2:18 am

    emay , haha, pinapakita mo lang ang tunay na kulay mo… taga pagadian ako walang kano na mayabang na pumupunta dito, di ako katulad mo na bayaran. Naboang ka dha, gusto ka mukaon puto? Ali dri zamboanga pakan on tika … hehe…. Napapanood ko kac kayo palagi sa tv eh, nag rarally sa labas ng korte…. Ano yang ginagawa nyo? di ba sa ginagawa nyong yan, sinusubukan ninyong maimpluwensyahan ang korte… eh binababoy nyo na yung kaso eh… mga walang hiya kayo……….

  25. melba said,

    November 4, 2006 at 4:32 am

    pataka ka lang owen. takot lang ng mga sundalong mapatay ng mga teroristang.

    ang mga kaibigan kong sundalo sa southcom mismo ang nagsabing, di man nilalahat, ngunit nagyayabang ang ibang mga sundalo sa loob ng kampo kunyari mas magaling sila sa mga Pilipino. kung sundalo ka maiintindihan mo ang mga sinasabi ko pero kung hindi don’t even try to pretend.

    Hindi lang ikaw ang taga Mindanao Owen at kung di mo naintindihan ang ipinaglalaban ng mga sumusuporta kay Nicole better get your facts straight first before you say anything.

  26. emay said,

    November 4, 2006 at 9:15 am

    Ewan Bakling: i did not understand what you said. Do you have any problem?

  27. Owen Bayking said,

    November 4, 2006 at 12:53 pm

    Melba, Nagpapasikat lang kayo eh yan pinaglalaban nyo. Eh san ba kayo nung kinidnap ng mga abu sayaf sa basilan yung mga kaawawang guro, ang dami nung narape ah, ni isa sa inyo na nagprotesta wala . Tapos dumating yung mga sundalong kano, nuabos yung mga abus dahil na rin sa assistance nila…. Alam mo Melba sa sobrang dami na ng mga kasamahan at kaibigan ko na namatay dahil jan sa mga Abus na yan, ni isang kuting di ko narinig kayo na sumusoporta sa amin, tapos dumating at sinupurtahan kami ng mga kano, inubos ang mga abus sa basilan….. Yan lang naman ang pinagsamahan namin , alam ko disiplinado atmabubuting tao yang mga marines na inaakusahan nyo…. Bigyan mo nga ako ng pangalan ng mga kaibigan mong sundalo sa southcom……… Tangna naman o……

  28. EMILY said,

    November 5, 2006 at 2:01 am

    emay; sige, umalis ka na. at pwede ba makilala yang katulong mo? May kaibigan kasi kami dito na naghahanap ng Pilipina. Yung daw kahit hindi maganda basta mabait at tapat. Baka si Nicole naman yan, di bale na lang! At least may bago akong natutunan kay emay, PLAK! Pera lang ang katapat.

    Melba: Nagbabasa po ako, naniniwala naman ako sa ibang sinasabi ni Nicole, ang hindi lang kapani-paniwala ay yung” Rape”. Hindi sya Nirape, alam nya at kagustuhan nya na may mangyari sa kanila ni Smitt kahit, sabihin nya na lasing na lasing pa sya, ang totoo, may halong paghahangad na sexual sa utak nya.
    At wala nakong magagawa kung iniisip mo na iisa kami ni maggie, basta ang alam ko, pag-aaksaya lang daw ng oras ang pag-ukulan ng pansin si Nicole. Di bale, tatawagan ko si maggie, siguradong matatawa yun.
    Mahirap ka pa lang paliwanagan. Malaki ba ang pasahod sa iyo ng organisasyon na yan? Nakakaawa ka naman, masyado kang napaniwala ni Nicole, Kung hindi lang US marine ang inaakusahan ni nicole, Kung pangkaraniwang kano lang sana yun na naghahanap ng babaeng bayaran, baka-sakaling maniwala pa kami na nirape sya. Ako, hindi ako, sumasama sa mga kanong pakalat kalat sa Subic. Gusto ko, yung mga sundalo lang, Kasi po, disiplinado ang mga yan. At nirerespeto nila ang mga babae, (pero kung babaeng katulad ni Nicole, na PLAK, depende) kaya hindi kapani-paniwala na nang-rape sila. Sila ang biktima.

  29. EMILY said,

    November 5, 2006 at 2:04 am

    O sige, dito lang muna ako, gabi na kasi dito, oras na para matulog, maghapon na lang ako nasa tapat ng computer. Nakakahiya sa fiance ko, Emay, ganito rin ba katulong mo, maghapon sa computer tulad ko?

  30. Renato Jose B. Rosales said,

    November 5, 2006 at 3:56 pm

    Ang gagaling niyong mangusga!You talk as if you are clean and righteous!I personally don’t know Ms.Nicole but whom am I to judge her? I myself is unrighteous.Just ask this question among ourselves, “What would the Lord Jesus do regarding Nicole?”

  31. CrossFire said,

    November 5, 2006 at 7:22 pm

    Emily:
    Ang laki naman ng paniniwala mo sa mga sundalong Kano. Ang sabi mo mga: “disiplinado ang mga yan at nirerespeto nila ang mga babae”. Eh hindi ba ang nag imbita sa kanila ay si Christopher Mills, na ang titulo ay US Navy Petty Officer at another US soldier, Carlos Ocasio. Ang trato pa ng ina ni Nicole sa mga sundalo na yan ay parang anak nya. Kung mga disiplinado ang mga sundalo na yan, very close friend nila si Nicole at Ana Lisa Franco, bakit naman doon sila inimbita sa lugar na hindi desenteng lugar? Tapos yong una pang hotel na ni reserved ng mga sundalo na yan para sa mga mag kapatid na Legenda Hotel ay notorious pa na ang mga Kano nag lalakad na naked. Nilipat lang nila sa Grand Leisure Hotel kasi nakita nila na kasama ang 12-year-old na kapatid ni Nicole. Kahit pa wala ang minor-de-edad na kapatid ni Nicole, bakit naman doon pa sa Hotel na ang mga Kanong hubad ay gumagala doon sila dadalin? Kung hindi dahil sa dalawang sundalo na Kano na yan, hindi sana nangyari ang pang yayari na yan.

    Kung ako man ang mag iimbita sa mga kaibigan kong babae, sisiguraduhin ko na ang pupuntahan namin ay isang desenteng lugar. At kung alam kong baguhan ang dalawang mag kapatid sa pag inum, bakit ako mag oorder ng hard liquor para sa mag kapatid. FYI, here is the report:
    There Franco said she and Nicole tasted drinks they had not heard of before: vodka sprite, B52 and Singapore sling.
    She said that every time she and Nicole finished a drink, they felt dizzy.
    “[Nicole] drank half a pitcher of Bullfrog. She drank it straight because she was being cheered by three Americans surrounding her,” said Franco.

    Kita na ninyo kung paano ang mga sundalo na yan na iniganya si Nicole na malasing.

    Eto pa ang isang report:
    Soriano claimed to have heard the other servicemen laughing and shouting “Go, go, go, Smith.”Smith, at that time, he said, was seated with the complainant. Soriano also claimed hearing the complainant shouting but could not understand what she was saying because Carpentier had turned up the volume of the stereo inside the van.

    Believe na believe ka sa mga sundalong Kano, pero tingnan mo ang mga report tungkol sa mga naka witness sa mga pangyayari.

  32. Jonas B. said,

    November 6, 2006 at 6:41 am

    To Renato, yung nagsasabi pa ngayon ng mey sense ang nanghusga…… hahaha….. sobra ka namang pathetic, nagbabasa lang sana ako dito pero sobra na kac kayo eh…. Kayo ang nanghuhusga, yung mga taong feeling nyo kumokontra sa inyo, sila ata yung gusto i bukas yung mga mata niyo sa katotohanan…. Pathetic ang mga sumusoporta kai nicole, yan lang masasabi ko adios moi amigos……..

  33. Angelo said,

    November 6, 2006 at 9:49 am

    Kung totoong nagkaroon ng rape gaya ng sinabi ni Nicole, sana yung mga nanghuhusga kay Nicole ay ma-rape din para maramdaman nila ang bigat na naramdaman ni Nicole, ang kahihiyan at lahat ng panlalait gaya ng sabi nya. Diyos lang ang nakakaalam ng tunay na mga nangyari. Mahirap manghusga.

    Kung hindi naman nagkaroon ng rape (o pareho nila kagustuhan yung sex na nangyari) gaya ng sabi nina Smith, sana yung mga nagtatanggol kay Nicole ay makulong rin para maramdaman nila kung gaano kahirap makulong ang isang inosente.

    Pero ako gusto kong makamtam ang katarungan at katotohanan. Ayokong manghusga. Pero bilang Pilipino, susuportahan ko ang kapwa ko Pilipino kung naniniwala akong tama ang ipinaglalaban nya (it’s a matter of opinion.). At bilang tao naniniwala akong dapat umiral ang katarungan ng walang pagtatangi sa kulay ng balat o lahi.

    Pero bakit nga ba hinahayaan ng gubyerno na makialam ang mga kano sa problema nating mga Pinoy at mga internal na usapin nito. Kahit militar nila na mga marines pumupunta dito. (Hmmp tutulong daw…. totoo kaya yun? Hehehe) Tutulong ba sa atin o pagsasamantalahan at pag-iinteresan ang yaman ng pilipinas kasama na ang pagsasamantala sa kababaihan?

    Sabi nung isa, tumulong daw na patayin yung mga teroristang abu sayaff (ok yun ahh), sana tumulong rin ang mga kanong ito na patayin yung mga ganid na opisyal ng gubyerno sa pamumuno ng madarayang (sinabi kong mandaraya dahil sa ebidensya ha na Hello Garci tape, at mismo sya umamin na rin na tumawag sya sa isang opisyal ng comelec noong election at sabi mismo ng SWS survey ayaw na ng Pinoy sa kanya, at yung ibang heneral ng AFP sinabi rin sa senado na nagkaroon ng dayaan ha) si Gloria Arroyo. Mas problema yata ng mga Pinoy yung mga ganid na opisyal ng gubyerno kaysa sa mga Abu Sayaff. Sana kung tinulungan tayo ng mga kanong ito na patayin yung mga Abu Sayaff, sana tulungan din tayong patayin ang mga ganid na ito. Hehehe. Hindi kaya ka-kutsaba rin nila si Gloria kaya hindi nila magawa yun?

    Hehehe, sayang naman ang ipinaglaban ng ating mga bayani at ang ibinuwis nilang buhay makalaya lang sa kapangyarihan ng mga ganid na dayuhang kastila, hapon at kano. Sana wag na lang makialam ang mga kano sa internal sa usapin at seguridad ng ating bansa. Para wala nang kasong tulad nitong kay Nicole. Hindi ko alam kung ni rape nga si Nicole o hindi, pero sigurado ako na sa matagal na pananatili rito ng mga sundalong kano, maraming kaso ng rape ang naisampa sa korte ng Pilipinas ang hindi nagtagumpay dahil sa sistema ng hustisya meron ang Pilipinas at sa kapabayaan nating mga Pinoy, kasama na yung ugali ng iba dyan na mapanlait sa mga rape victim.

    Opinyon ko lang yan ha, walang kokontra.

  34. EMILY said,

    November 6, 2006 at 1:51 pm

    To all who support and believes what Nicoles accusations, sana nga ay totoong inosente at hindi nya kagustuhan ang nangyari, kasi kung hindi nya mapatunayan at matalo sya sa kaso, its a big embarassment to our country kung sya pala ang gumawa ng iskandalong yan. Nakakahiya talaga at sana yung mga naniniwala sa kanya, walang iwanan, bilang Pilipino, hindi naman kami talagang galit kay Nicole, hindi lang kami naniniwala sa akusasyon nyang Rape. Buti sana kung talagang nalasing lang sya, kaya lang nagsayaw pa sya ng dirty dance, dun sa part na yun hindi kapani-paniwalang ni-rape sya. Kaya iniisip ng ibang tao, na kagustuhan nya ang nangyari, kasi, nagpapakita sya ng motibo na gusto nyang makatikim ng sex.
    Dapat ngang hintayin na lang natin ang desisyon ng korte. Hindi po totoo na lahat ng rape victim ay nilalait at hindi pinaniniwalaan. Isa rin po akong Pilipina, kaya lang sa lahat ng rape victim, si Nicole lang talaga, ang imposible.At imposibleng hindi sya binayaran ni Smitt nang gabing yun. Pag ang isang babae ay tumanggap ng bayad sa isang kustomer, ibig sabihin non ay handa sya at alam nyang may pagtatalik na mangyayari. Kahihiyan na talaga sa mga taong nakakita ang naramdaman ni Nicole nung iniwan sya sa isang tabi ng mga kanong yun. Kaya pinalabas nya na Nirape sya.
    Tungkol sa mga Visiting forces, kapalit ng pagsasanay ng mga Sundalong kano sa Pilipinas ay ang mga donasyon. Sa mga hindi nakakaalam, malaking tulong ang iniiwan nila para sa mga mahihirap. At yun ay ipinagkakatiwala nila sa mga opisyal ng Gobyerno. At hindi lang natin alam kung nakakarating sa mga dapat mapuntahan ang malaking tulong na iniiwan nila. At isa pa, mayroon ding silang idinodonate na mga bagong kagamitan para sa mga Pilipinong sundalo. Muli, ito ay ipinagkakatiwala nila sa mga opisyal ng Gobyerno ng Depensa. Naalala nyo ba ang mga Magdalo Group, na binubuo ng mga Philippine Marines, Totoo ang mga akusasyon nila patungkol sa tiwaling opisyal ng Gobyerno. Inakusahan nila ang mga opisyal na ito, , na ibinebenta ang donasyon kagamitan sa mga rebeldeng sundalo. Kaya hindi imposibleng ang mga rebeldeng sundalo ay may mga hightech na kagamitan. Ang mga Magdalo group na ito, ay sinanay ng mga US Marines, kaya alam nila ang katiwaliang naganap. At kaya naman may Visiting Forces Agreement, isa na dyan ang malaking tulong na iniiwan ng mga kano sa Pilipinas na kinakamkam naman ng Gobyerno.
    Paesensya na po, marami na akong nasasabi.
    To Melba, crossfire at jay , according to Chona, iisa lang pala kayo. Multiple character ba? Totoo ngang hindi dapat pag-aksayahan ng panahon ang blog na ito. Nanloloko lang kayo ng tao. Goodbye!

  35. CrossFire said,

    November 6, 2006 at 3:55 pm

    Hoy Emily, ako si CrossFire at iisang tao lang ako. Iisa ang personality ko at hindi ako multiple. Hindi ako si Melba at hindi rin ako si Jay. Ako ay meron sariling paniniwala at sa mulat-mula pa lang ay sinubaybayan ko na ang mga report tungkol sa kaso ni Nicole, also known as Subic Rape Case. Hindi ako bulag sa kasong ito. I tried to educate myself about this case, so that I can give a constructive criticism. Win or lost in this case, I am always for Nicole based on the evidence and the witnesses presented. Hindi lahat ng hustisya ay natutupad sa mundong ito. Iisa lamang ang hindi nag kakamali sa pag bibigay ng hustisya sa buong kataohan.

  36. EMILY said,

    November 6, 2006 at 4:08 pm

    sorry crossfire! sna ay lumabas ang katotohanan at hustisya sa totoong biktima!

  37. CrossFire said,

    November 6, 2006 at 4:57 pm

    Ok lang Emily, wala akong sama ng loob at yan din ang panalangin ko na mabigyan ng hustisya kung sino man ang totoong biktima sa kasong ito.

  38. bryan said,

    November 6, 2006 at 9:46 pm

    nicoles statements are not persistent from the beginning the planning so wrong.and her mother needs to shed more tears to be vero more convincing!!!she’s not gonna win.professionals like her needs no justice at all!

  39. Angelo said,

    November 7, 2006 at 2:12 am

    Eto basahin nyo, statement of truth yan ha… nothing to debate about it… kinopya ko lang….

    Rape trial in RP revives face of ‘ugly American’

    First posted 10:12am (Mla time) Oct 25, 2006
    Agence France-Presse

    In the decades leading up to the handover of the bases, a number of incidents created a groundswell of anger among Filipinos as sometimes it seemed that US soldiers were using the locals for target practice but rarely faced justice.

    In 1964 a Filipino boy was shot in the back by a sentry at the Clark Airfield. This was followed by the killing of a Filipino fisherman by American sentries at the Subic Bay naval base.

    The shootings triggered a series of demonstrations at the bases and outside the US embassy in Manila, which tried to explain away the shooting of the boy by saying that “certain Filipinos” had tried to bomb an American school at Clark.

    In 1968 a Filipino was shot dead by an American sentry at a US base in Cavite and in 1969 a US soldier went hunting with his service pistol and shot a Filipino employed at the base. In his defense the soldier said he thought the Filipino was a wild bore.

    After a brief investigation by the US authorities it was found that there was no case to answer and a few days later the soldier was put on a military aircraft and sent back to the US.

    Under the agreement that existed then US military personnel were not subject to Philippine law for crimes committed in the country.

    Against this background — despite the historical ties between the two countries and the affinity many Filipinos feel for the US — the Subic Bay rape case has been bitterly divisive.

    Women’s groups have rallied around the woman, identified only as “Nicole,” claiming she is an innocent victim.

    Smith has never denied having sex with the woman but he and his co-accused have maintained it was consensual.

  40. Angelo said,

    November 7, 2006 at 2:21 am

    At isa pa, i advise you na magsaliksik ng kasaysayan…

    Trivia: Sinong dayuhang mananakop ang pinakamalupit na naghari sa Pilipinas?

    Sagot: Kung tatanungin mo ang mga matatanda na sumapi sa Huk o gerilya, sasabihin nilang ang mga Hapon. Kung tatanungin mo ang mga academic historians, sasabihin nilang ang mga Kastila dahil sa mga nabasa nilang libro. Pero alam ba ninyong noong panahon ng gyera ng mga Pinoy at Kano sa Pilipinas (late 1800’s yun), umabot sa mahigit 200,000 Pilipino (o isa sa bawat anim na Pilipino sa Luzon) ang pinatay ng mga Kano sa Pilipinas. Hindi nga pala itinuro yan sa iskul dahil ang gumawa ng kurikulum ng mga Pilipino sa iskwela (at ang buong sistema ng edukasyon) simula noon ay ang mga Tomasite (mga Kano rin) kaya pinagtakpan nila ang kahayupang ginawa nila sa kasaysayan. At tayo naman, walang kalabang labang napaniwala sa napakaraming kasinungalingang ginawa nila hanggang sa mabuo sa ating isipan na ang modelo ng pagiging tao ay ang mga Kano at ikahiya natin ang sariling kulay.

    hehehehehehehe…. Kung hindi kayo naniniwala, mag research kayo at magbasa ng libro, yung hindi gawa ng kano ha…

  41. Melba said,

    November 7, 2006 at 3:10 pm

    What ever happened to your assumptions Emily. Ano kami Holy Trinity? One and the same person? Di ko alam at kilalang-kilala pala ako ni “Chona” at kung sino man siya.

    That was the funniest comment I’ve read around here.

    Win or lose, I still support Nicole. And yes, may justice be given to Nicole.

  42. EMILY said,

    November 7, 2006 at 4:23 pm

    Melba; OO wag mong iwan si Nicole, kailangang kailangan nya ang isang tulad mo na kunsintidor. Kawawa naman sya, walang patutunguhan ang buhay nya, baka pag tapos ng hearing, ay magwala lang sya pag natalo sya sa kaso. Lalo nya lang pinariwara ang sarili nya. Magpakatotoo kayo ng alaga mo .

  43. Christine said,

    November 8, 2006 at 2:38 am

    She’s a two timer who got caught in the act and wanted a way out. Unfortunately for her, hindi lahat ng mga Filipino makikitid ang pag iisip…

  44. emay said,

    November 8, 2006 at 4:51 am

    Christine, tell us who caught her in the act? Did you? Again, you are one of those who did not read what had transpired and just blurt out opinion that is just too far out. Read more on this to widen your understanding and come back here.

  45. bryan said,

    November 8, 2006 at 3:53 pm

    EMAY UR THE ONE WHO IS JUST MURMURING NONSENSE OPINIONS!common sense lady.we dont have to be around the scene to knows what’s the truth its just the matter of understanding what she’s been saying since u dont have a common sense so shut ur big fuckin mouth cause u urself was not in that place that night that time where it happened so back off!ur on her side cause u know what?let me guess ur a two timer flirt too just like ur idol nicole! i assume u look exactly how she does!slirp!!!besides am glad there are still girls here that are smart enough like emily and cristine!rock on girls!

  46. emay said,

    November 8, 2006 at 9:12 pm

    Emily, bistado ka na. Hindi ka siguro pakakasalan ng kano kung hindi ka makikiblog dito at siraan si Nicole. Condition siguro iyan bago ka pakasalan o sakalin? So, you are Christine as well! Naku, may mga reasons kung bakit ang grupo ninyo ay ganyan kung mga magsalita laban kay Nicole. May lider kayo at pihadong nababayaran kayo. Kung hindi siguro diyan sa kano mo, ano ka ngayon? Saan ka dadamputin?

    Bryan, i would not argue with you so much, bec your language speaks for youelf – what kind of a person you are. I would say the low life.

  47. bryan said,

    November 8, 2006 at 9:44 pm

    emay walang kang comment dahil wala kang alam!u see i know nicole very much.ano kamo my language speaks for myself?anong alam mo sa language eh common sense nga wla ka!language pa kaya alam mo?!?!and besides if in case im a lowlife bitch at least i dont sue rape case for those i had one night stands just to have money!i dont try to get this site to have funds for myself family and for our needs…do u get me emay?now please tell me if am the lowlife or it’s nicole that u praised so much?so ur right better not argue with me cause ul never gonna win i happen to hold a lot than u do. chill out.

  48. Michael Dalid said,

    November 9, 2006 at 1:25 am

    Melba said:

    “Win or lose, I still support Nicole. And yes, may justice be given to Nicole.”

    Blind allegiance or kabobohan lang talaga hahaha….

    Emay said:

    “Naku, may mga reasons kung bakit ang grupo ninyo ay ganyan kung mga magsalita laban kay Nicole. May lider kayo at pihadong nababayaran kayo. Kung hindi siguro diyan sa kano mo, ano ka ngayon?”

    Nag iilusyon ka lang ata emay eh, mey grupo pa ngayun ang kumukontra sa inyo. Sa akin lang, di na kelangan mey grupo para magkaroon ng common sense ang isang tao, tama si bryan, wala kayong common sense. At mga praning kayo… Punta kayo dito sa Coronadal City, ipapakita ko sa inyo kun mey grupo ba ako, or mga tao lang talaga dito di naniniwala jan key Nicole…

  49. EMILY said,

    November 9, 2006 at 1:11 pm

    Emay, Paano naman ako makakasali sa grupo na sinasabi mo? Eh, nandito po me, sa US. OO, marami kaming magkakaibigan na may mga fiance na US Navy at US Marines, yung iba po ay nakilala ko during the process of my visa,medical and interview sa US Embassy sa Manila. Pero, pagdating dito sa US, magkakalayo kami ng States. At wala na kami gaanong communications pagdating dito, yun lang mga naging close ko talaga.
    Nakakatawa ka naman, ang sabi mo, hindi ako pakakasalan ng kano ko kung hindi ako makikiblog dito. Actually, next week na po ang kasal namin. kaya ito na muna ang huli kong post. hindi nya ako pinipigilan kung ano man ang nararamdaman at gusto kong sabihin. At hindi sya interesado sa kasong yan, dahil wala sya kakilala isa man sa mga yan.At sabi ng kano ko, ‘let the judge handle the case.’ At tama ka, kung hindi dahil sa kano ko ay baka mapariwara at mabulok ako sa pagtatrabaho sa bar. Katulad ng kabuhayan nila Nicole na canteen sa loob ng Subic, kung wala siguro ang mga kanong customer nila ay baka kung saan din sila damputin. At kung wala silang mga kaibigang kano, ay baka lugi at walang kita ang negosyo nila. Buksan mo nga ang mga mata mo, mahirap ka paliwanagan, makitid ang mga utak ng mga naniniwala kay Nicole.
    Babalik ako!

  50. bryan said,

    November 9, 2006 at 4:01 pm

    hi there emily…that was awesome u know..anyway dont waste ur time explaining same shit to that bobo emay again and again!she will never understand u.besides u have a point there.if not for the the canteen and all those amerecans na binobola nila pareho na nanay nya at mga kapatid nya eh wlang mangyayari sa kanila.kaso mas malaki kasi ang kikitain nila sa ginawa nilang gimik eh.anyway goodluck with ur wedding and keep that up.

  51. anonymous2 said,

    November 10, 2006 at 3:48 am

    it’s sad that people up to now are divided with regards to this case. i just hope that we all learn how to read and understand the whole situation before we say anything.

    i dunno if these people criticizing until now knows each and every detail of the story. but then, i would not argue with any of you anymore. it’s enough that i have understood everything – that people sometimes really don’t know what they are saying – and have spoken my stand about it.

    to those who criticize a lot, i just hope that anyone of you won’t experience the same kind of embarrassment that ‘nicole’ is suffering right now. you won’t really understand something if you will continuously close your ears and mind about it.

    again, i just want to stress out that, EVEN PROSTITUTED WOMEN DO NOT DESERVE TO BE RAPED.

  52. anonymous2 said,

    November 10, 2006 at 3:54 am

    the issue is not either ‘nicole’ is a decent girl or not. the issue is that she was raped! she seeks for justice. why don’t we just extend even our littlest sympathy for the woman. i believe no one wants to be raped, right. do you?

    i’m not saying i have the right line of arguement here. all i’m saying is if you can’t give her your sympathy or what, just give her the benefit of the doubt.

    if you dislike the idea of coming out to public and seek for justice because you’re raped then you may just say so. but, come to think of it, PUT YOURSELVES IN NICOLE’S SHOES,

  53. anonymous2 said,

    November 10, 2006 at 3:57 am

    what do you think would you do if you’re raped?!?

    or

    what will you do if someone from your relatives were raped?!?

    AND PEOPLE KEEP ON SAYING THAT, YOU OR THAT RELATIVE OF YOURS IS A BITCHY TYPE AND THAT SHE’S NOT REALLY RAPED SHE JUST HAD CONSENSUAL SEX.

  54. Michael Dalid said,

    November 10, 2006 at 4:09 am

    The question would be, my dear anonymous, if there was any rape that happened in the first place. Whatever happened to the presumption “innocent until proven guilty”. Let us remember that Nicole is not the only one affected here, those marines also have their families. And the worst thing is, hinuhusgahan na ninyo sila even before this trial started. That for me was the reason why i decided to post here. Tagal ko nang pabasabasa lang dito, pero it came to the point na di ko na masikmura eh… Sorry ha, pero i just feel that what must be emphasize here is Justice. I’m just disgusted with what most of you are saying for nicole, ni di niyo nga kilala ang babaeng yan. Bakit, pag babae ba na nagsasabing nirape sya, 100% sigurado na yun na nirape talaga sya?

  55. emay said,

    November 10, 2006 at 4:19 am

    I could easily sense that most of those who belittle Nicole, whether men or women or inbetween, are pros*is themselves. Maybe because of their trade, they cannot distinguish anymore what is with consent or what is ‘not without consent’, in short rape. All they see is money (dollar perhaps). Come to think of it, why would they come here and be so aggressive in saying negative words about Nicole. Maybe they envy her or she is prettier than them.

    I mysel came to a conclusion that Nicole is not after money I read in the news that she was offered money and a chance to live in the USA, but she declined. So, any right thinking person would believe her.

  56. anonymous2 said,

    November 10, 2006 at 6:02 am

    MICHAEL DALID,

    i know ‘nicole’ personally! and that i know the whole story – more than you do – sorry din but i think some people here really don’t know what they are saying.

    the US marines also have their own families back home, yeah, you’re right. but my question is.. did they think about their families during that incident?!? did they ever had the idea that anyone from their ‘family’ can also experience the same.

    true, everyone has the right for their own opinion. but it follows that they should be responsible enough to understand the whole situation before saying anything.

    B4 SPEAKING, LISTEN!
    B4 CRITICIZING, ANALYZE!

    know what the worst thing is? that people sometimes tells everything even they really don’t have any idea at all about what they are talking.

  57. flef said,

    November 10, 2006 at 10:47 am

    i agree with Anonymous – it’s really sad that this case has spurned division among us. but to everyone, supporters and critics alike, let’s not further widen the gap between us. please be reminded that this blog was created to disseminate information about the case, to dispel myths, and to destroy unhealthy biases. those who defend Nicole are not BOBO just because they firmly believe that she was raped. in the same light, those who criticize her are neither stupid – clearly, they have their own reasons for not believing in Nicole. BUT PLEASE, magbigay naman tayo ng RESPETO sa kapwa natin. please refrain from throwing shit at each other (and at Nicole na rin, tao rin siya diba); instead, give us sound and valid arguments. also, please don’t jump to conclusions. in debate, that’s the most dangerous and stupid thing to do. none of us were present to witness the incident, so technically, we have no right to judge. we’re all here to voice our humble opinions. let’s be civilized in doing so.

    to bryan: you seem to know so much “dirt” about Nicole and her family. if you’re so damned sure about it, why don’t you spill the beans? stop being so arrogant.

    to EMILY and all the others engaged or married to american soldiers: you women are lucky for having met such wonderful husbands and fiances. however, Nicole was unfortunate to have met such opportunistic bastards. please don’t liken your situation to Nicole’s. she was in Subic last year to take her vacation with here siblings and friends. while inside Neptune Club, she felt safe because she had trusted company. as you’ve admitted, everyone possesses the right to drink and dance to their heart’s desire. who would think that they’d be raped because of the way she is dancing or the quantity of alcohol she is consuming? in the first place, as trumpeted on before, RAPE IS RAPE. it’s basic elements are: 1) carnal knowledge (which was admitted to by Smith), and 2) lack of consent (which was proven by the prosecution, due to the toxicity and amount of alcohol Nicole consumed). it is a crime to engage in sex with someone who’s not willing or not able to give consent. even if she was “asking for it” because of the way she danced or drank, IT WAS NOT FOR SMITH TO TAKE ADVANTAGE. otherwise, lahat ng sumasayaw nang malaswa at naglalasing na babae ay pwede nang gahasain. because they were “asking for it.” please, do not give me this utterly faulty, medieval-age logic. wake up and welcome yourselves to the 21st century.

    to Michael Dalid: i agree with you in that the accused should be presumed to be innocent until proven guilty. but, in forming your opinion, consider the evidence. sabi mo, “Bakit, pag babae ba na nagsasabing nirape sya, 100% sigurado na yun na nirape talaga sya?” eh kaya nga may paglilitis eh. it’s up to Judge Pozon to hold the accused guilty or not. we are just here to try and convice you hard-hearted folks that they are. we’ve laid down our reasons in this blog. why don’t you enlighten us with yours?

  58. Melba said,

    November 10, 2006 at 12:38 pm

    Michael and Bryan, I find it amazing for you to tag anyone who is not your side as “bobo”. I find it pitiful that you immediately label people who oppose your arguments and think that you have the monopoly of intelligence .

    Michael, di ba year 2000 pa naconvert and spelling ng lugar mo, from Municipality of Coronadal to Koronadal City? (R.A. 8803)…. baka nga ikaw pa ang may blind allegiance.

    Bryan, in the same way that you don’t know or maybe know these US marines and you have immediately presumed their innocence and make such accusing and righteous comments against Nicole.

  59. flef said,

    November 10, 2006 at 1:32 pm

    ps. to Michael Dalid: you talk about “Justice” and then subsequently require us to actually know Nicole before formulating our opinions. you have lambasted Nicole and belittled her personality quite repeatedly in your comments. in the same breath, you want to emphasize on “Justice”? last time i checked, Lady Justice was blindfolded. go figure.

    to Owen Bayking (and all those who think all americans are harmless): do not generalize. there’s this creature named george w. bush who’s wreaking havoc the world over. he’s the prime reason why your illusions should be shattered. if you’d like me to spell it for you.. NOT ALL AMERICANS ARE THE SAINTS THAT YOU PICTURE THEM TO BE. some are terrorists themselves. and you know what, some take advantage of intoxicated women in bars and take them in their vans and have sex with them while their comrades cheer on. wake up and smell the stinking roses.

  60. bryan said,

    November 10, 2006 at 3:08 pm

    MELBA:
    that’s what ur wrong about melbs!i do know both sides!and that’s why i know who’s telling the truth here ok? 🙂 chill out!and am not making up comments for nicole it’s true!

  61. CrossFire said,

    November 10, 2006 at 4:43 pm

    Justice Seeker:

    What do you know of the following church ministers?:

    Jimmy Swaggart
    Jim Bakker
    Victor Young Pickett
    Joseph Briceno
    Mark Foley
    Timothy Rademacher

    They were known to be of good moral character, is it not? Were they free of sex scandal?

  62. CrossFire said,

    November 10, 2006 at 4:54 pm

    If their sexual scandal were not published, probably you would also say:

    “I strongly believe they are completely innocent and incapable of committing such a crime.”

  63. Justice Seeker said,

    November 10, 2006 at 5:11 pm

    You’ve got to be kidding me! I don’t know any of them at all and would never attempt to profess their innocence of committing any crime. Just as a prostitute can choose to not engage in sex with just anyone, so can a minister choose to do something illegal and immoral. I would imagine that the people close to Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, Victor Young Pickett, Joseph Briceno, Mark Foley, and Timothy Rademacher knew at least part of their true character. Just because I’m American doesn’t mean that they are all my best friends. In fact, the truth is I assumed (as many of you do) that those men were guilty as soon as they made headlines. But if you really know someone, there are usually signs of problems, i.e. anger towards women, family problems, negative remarks regarding women, bullying, etc. People close to the men listed above can look back and say, “Oh yeah, he really did like to be around the young ladies or young boys, etc.”. I’m so sorry for you but you seem to be completely blinded with prejudice and there’s really nothing I can say to you to change an opinion based on prejudice.

  64. Justice Seeker said,

    November 10, 2006 at 6:07 pm

    People who are close to someone usually know their true character. I Googled the men listed above to see what people who really knew them had to say about them. Everything in parenthesis is my words. The rest was just cut and pasted from the articles.

    Police say (Victor Young) Pickett has a troubled past.

    (Jimmy) Swaggart’s car was seen REPEATEDLY in the parking area of the No-Tell Motel. Somebody put a bug in a reporter’s ear. (The people around him were not surprised)

    Jim (Bakker)admitted squandering church money on luxury cars and six mansions. When he got caught, there were 47 separate bank accounts in Jim’s name. After wasting money on every conceivable amenity, they brainstormed some truly frivolous expenditures. $100 in cinnamon buns just to imbue their hotel suite with the smell. A dog house equipped with air-conditioning, which was too noisy for the mutt to sleep in. $60,000 in gold-plated bathroom fixtures. (The people around him were not surprised)

    Joseph Briceno – (I imagine that people close to the pediphile priests are not surprised at all that they were found guilty of such crimes. People in a parish are not necessarily, personally familiar with their priest. Other priests, nuns, and probably some observant parishoners are not surprised because they can look back and see the signs.)

    The scandal has grown to encompass the response of Republican congressional leaders to previous complaints about (Mark) Foley’s contacts with the pages and inconsistencies in the leaders’ public statements. (The people around him were not surprised)

    “Tim (Rademacher) is very gifted and articulate,” Fairchild said. “Everyone just thought he was terribly immature.” Laura Crites, is pastor at United Methodist Church in DeKalb. She had served at Woodland and Crescent City when Rademacher was at Ashkum. Like his other friends, she said she knew that he had questions about his sexuality but was never comfortable with saying: It’s become obvious to me I’m gay. (There are signs.)

    As for Daniel Smith, there are absolutely zero signs from his past. On the contrary, his character is totally opposite. He’s polite, respectful, and has a loving middle class family. He’s not making tons of money off the blind faith of religious zealots such as the televangalists. Nor is he a pedophile, or a criminal with a troubled past. He’s just a normal young man who was out to have a good time. If “Nicole” would have said no, he would have respected it.

    My only point here is that I know Dan to be respectful and kind. There are people here who personally know “Nicole” and they claim to know that she is lying. That’s it!

    So all of you blind lemmings can just keep on following “the cause” and just keep dropping off the cliff.

  65. Justice Seeker said,

    November 10, 2006 at 6:33 pm

    One other thing…I would not base my decision of innocence or guilt solely on the person’s character and witnesses of such. If there was hard evidence of guilt that would override everything. But there is not. Actually, most rapes are hard to convict because there are no witnesses. Just his word against hers. In this case, there ARE witnesses, the driver and the other three marines inside the van. So instead of calling them witnesses, let’s just make them all participants in the crime? What the hell is that? And how convenient!

  66. emay said,

    November 10, 2006 at 7:56 pm

    Justice Seeker, Abah kahit kilala or boy friend mo si Smith, it does not mean you know his every move. Why? Are you with him every second of the day everyday? Dito nga sa amin may phedophile na mataas ang tingin ng mga tao sa kanya nuong hindi pa alam na ganoon pala siya. Larawan niya ay clean cut, happy family, magandang asawa at mga anak, mataas ang pinagaralan at professional. Ngayon? Nasa kulungan? For 15 years siyang nagmomolestiya ng mga kabataan, nalaman ba agad ng asawa niya? Hindi. Nahalata ba? Hindi. Biglang bigla ang pamilya dahil KILALA daw nila siya. Hindi sila makapaniwala na ang asawa at ama nila ay ganoon. Nagcomplain ang mga batang biktima na ngayon ay mga nasa eded na at napatunayan na talagang siya ay child molester. Sinasabi ko ito na hindi mo gawing katwiran yang kilala mong mabuting tao si Smith. Hindi ka nakakasiguro. Walang nakakasiguro.

  67. Justice Seeker said,

    November 10, 2006 at 8:12 pm

    I can only answer to the English and the answer is no. I’m not with him every second of the day. But if you don’t understand character, I wouldn’t begin to try to explain it to you. I’ve given my opinion on this and explained it as much as I need to.

  68. bryan said,

    November 10, 2006 at 8:39 pm

    so emay have u seen nicoles every move?before and when the incident happened?do u know the things that she’s been doing?no right?so dont say as if u have have been with any of the two sides!ashbrain!

  69. Anonymous said,

    November 10, 2006 at 9:20 pm

    imay, englishin mo sinasabi mo, sa tingin ko, amerikano si justice seeker.

  70. emay said,

    November 10, 2006 at 10:30 pm

    Justice Seeker, Just for your sake. This is what i want to tell you. Even if you are the partner (conjugal or otherwise) of this Smith, you won’t even be able to tell if he is doing evil thing on the side. If you are american, just watch Dateline of nbc, it tells you of crimes usually committed by well loving good citizens (as seen from the outside) where families, friends and neighbors are shocked and couldn’t believe they can do a crime.

  71. Justice Seeker said,

    November 10, 2006 at 11:13 pm

    And what I’m saying is that I wouldn’;t necessarily set someone free because of character witnesses, but you don’t hang someone over circumstantial, flimsy evidence. If Dan had a troubled background, with incidents of rude behavior toward women or even acting out as a child, I might question his innocence. But given all of the circumstances that I’ve read here and in other articles, the evidence COMBINED with my personal knowledge of himI convinces me that he is innocent. My problem is not that I believe he will be treated unfairly by your courts. My problem is that the people at this site would order to have him hung, simply on the word of the one who claims to have been raped. You don’t want a trial. You want to throw the American in jail. Period! A lot of you will not believe in his innocence even if he is found not guilty in your courts.

    I have watched almost every one of those Dateline shows about catching the pedophiles. I understand your point but you don’t seem to understand mine. He must be PROVEN guilty before I will ever believe he is guilty. He has to be proven innocent before you will believe it. That’s not how justice works.

  72. Anonymous said,

    November 11, 2006 at 12:03 am

    justice seeker, not all of filipinos are gonna believe of Nicoles accusations. I dont know her personally, i just have a doubt of her , im with one of the US Marines that night before it happens. But im not working in the same bar. what makes me doubt to her is i saw her that night, she looks professional drunker, and very good dancer. I dont know, maybe she just like to impress the other men there. im new to that kind of work, and of all women there, shes the one who get my attention because of the way she dance.We left that bar early as my partner dont like to drink .After that, i dont know what happens next. The next two days later, i just heard about this news that she was gang raped. At first, i was shocked, but at the same time, there is doubt in my mind. How come she claimed that she was gang raped? Yeah, i dont know, what really happens after we left Neptune bar, but based on what i see the way she drunk and dance that night, i have a benefit of a doubt. The US Marine that i talk to that night (believe it or not, nothing sexual happens to us because he said he is married) pay me for just with him,talk and listen to my story, i think she felt sorry for me and for all the girls working in that kind of job. And im thankful that he respect and understand us.
    Im glad that i found this site, but i just like this comment my last one. i just a silent reader here, and looking for a new decent job. I was hoping and pray that justice will served to the true victim. Im looking forward to judgement day and hope it will fair enough for everybody who involves in this case. Lets pray for them.

  73. Justice Seeker said,

    November 11, 2006 at 3:15 am

    Let’s do that. And I hope you find the good job that you’re looking for.

  74. Semper Fi said,

    November 11, 2006 at 1:43 pm

    To Justice seeker,

    Your patience is amazing and your points on the mark. Unfortunately as you mentioned and I quote you partially,

    “Evidently, the general public in the Philippines view Americans as guilty until proven innocent. Nobody will ever open the eyes of people so deeply prejudiced.”

    As I have mentioned in previous comments, I am an American that lives in the Philippines, and I was here when the alleged rape incident first surfaced and I am still here watching the case unfold. I agree with you, the general publics mentality concerning the presumption of innocent until proven guilty is not applied to Americans/foreigners. (If you don’t agree open your eyes, it’s a fact amongst Americans/foreigners that live here, not just to these 4 Marines) I mentioned in a previous comment that I too was falsely charged with a crime in this country. I found (1st hand) how it was being an American going through the process. (Though I was not covered by the VFA) [Meaning I did not have someone looking over my shoulder to ensure I was not being ill advised], Anyway, I found the same ideology thrived, at every level I had to go through. That I was guilty just because someone pointed his or her finger at me and said I did something to him or her. It was infuriating, but you’re put in a position where there isn’t much you can do or say with out becoming disrespectful or creating real charges. Now, in order to protect my family and myself, I have a different perspective for the people here. I did not create this perspective; the people gave it to me.

    Fortunately for ALL in this case, the venue was in Manila court. I think this better than heard in Olongapo hall of Justice where the case was 1st assigned. Much better chance of Justice in Manila! Lets all hope Justice prevails!

    Semper Fi

  75. Semper Fi said,

    November 11, 2006 at 1:53 pm

    2nd part Justice seeker,

    I agree you are not going to open the eyes of the people responsible for this blog site to anything except what they perceive. I agree prejudice blinds them! To copy and past from their “Online Petition: Justice for Nicole, Justice for our Nation”

    “We firmly believe that the ultimate judge of this case will be the Filipino people in their aspirations for justice and national sovereignty.”

    This is one of the comments that prompted me to make my initial posts, because I could not believe such a racist remark concerning such a delicate subject was posted. The phrase butchers the meaning of JUSTICE. Justice for Nicole, there is no such thing and if the people behind this site were not blinded with prejudice you would know that Justice is for ALL!

    Here is a question to all. When you pray to whatever God, spirit, you pray to about this case, you’re praying to the almighty that knows everything, right? So when you pray, what do you ask for, Justice for Nicole? If the almighty knows, then why not just pray for Justice. That’s what we all want!

    Semper Fi

  76. Rac said,

    November 11, 2006 at 4:09 pm

    Tagal ko na gusto mag comment tungkol sa kaso mo ni nicole… Sorry, hindi mo nakuha sympathy ko kc sa itsura ng mga rapist mo halatang ikaw ang una at nakipag flirt sa kanila knowing naman mga ugali ng kano, kaya ka humantong sa ganyang sitwasyon sna inenjoy mo na lang gwapo naman nila eh… hehehe…. Well cguro lessons learned na… next time “BE CAREFUL ON YOUR ACTION… BECAUSE YOU’LL NEVER KNOW WERE WILL THIS LEAD YOU!!!… tsk, tsk, tsk

  77. Zac carido said,

    November 11, 2006 at 9:23 pm

    Nicole, youre a liar, stop pretending like a decent, you are a proffesional hooker!

  78. Zac carido said,

    November 11, 2006 at 9:47 pm

    We are all US Marines supporters here in OLongapo City, Nicole is a big embarassment not only in our country but also to all womens here. May the justice given to her victims which is this young mens.

  79. Melba said,

    November 11, 2006 at 10:49 pm

    It’s Ok Rac or Zac. We are all entitled to our own view on the case. But of course, not all of Olongapo buy your opinion.

    I don’t even understand the high you got by typing her initials on this blog when in fact early on some broadsheets already printed her name in full. No big deal, really.

    The documented 3000 silent cases of rape and women abuses in the Philippines allegedly committed by these US soldiers would speak of the nature of the crime these US soldiers are capable of doing. These data don’t even account yet the other alleged abuses these US soldiers committed in other countries.

  80. Justice Seeker said,

    November 12, 2006 at 1:51 am

    Melba, your conclusions are ridiculous and your judgment is clouded with hate. If what you say is correct, I suppose the same thing should go for all crimes. There are a number of parents who abuse their own children. I guess that speaks of the nature of the crime that all parents are capable of, so from now on, parents should be arrested and thrown in jail on the word of a child..forget evidence or a trial..we know they’re capable of it. Not to mention that your 3000 documented cases are alleged abuses, which means that they may have happened, or may not have. I’m wondering how many of this 3000 include false allegations to distort money. I’ve never been to the Philippines but from what I’ve been reading, it seems rather common. I don’t claim that that is the case in this situation. I’ve just read that it happens frequently. I would think that the more people who recieve a payoff for a false report of a crime, would increase the number of those kinds of false reports.

  81. Michael Dalid said,

    November 12, 2006 at 2:15 am

    Again, there’s no point talking to these kinds of people, better save your words for someone with a brain to speak of. I sympathize with you justice seeker. But talking to idiots can only get you so far. Let’s just wait for the verdict, I’m 100% sure those marines will be acquitted…. And Nicole will be seen for what she really is……

  82. Justice Seeker said,

    November 12, 2006 at 5:03 am

    Ooops! Brain freeze! That’s extort money, not distort. Haha!

    Thanks Semper Fi and Michael Dalid for the positive words. It’s very helpful to me amongst all of the negativity here. It’s very difficult for me to get any information other than this website and Google Alerts with news articles.

  83. Semper Fi said,

    November 12, 2006 at 12:59 pm

    To: Justice Seeker

    I don’t know if you read the Internet editions of the Philippine newspapers but this is the best source of information concerning the case if you are outside the Philippines because it gives you the perspective within the country. If you have not already, Goggle search for “Philippine news” and all the papers/links come up. This is where most of the articles from this site have come from but they pick and choose what to put on.

    The papers are written from with in the country so you will see that point of view. Most are in English.

    The 1st copy and past link below I received today and found it typical of the attitude in this site but the article is in a major newspaper. (The article regarding Nicole’s Christmas gift) The other links are miscellaneous copy and pastes of no particular order.

    The local TV has been quiet of the case since Nicole went to SBMA on Nov 1st to do what ever it was she was trying to do. Walking around near, but not at, the US ships is what footage I saw. (The US ships were in port then too.)

    I am happy to see you, Justice seeker, Mr. Dalid, and others through out this pro Nicole site, continue to remind readers that there are two scales when evaluating Justice. I hope all of you can maintain your patience and articulation if you choose to comment with the (what I consider) misguided people of the site, so they do not continue to mislead others.

    I really hope our lady of Justice has her blindfold on, her scale(s) balanced, and her heart in the right place when Justice is delivered on the 27th.

    Semper Fi

  84. emay said,

    November 12, 2006 at 6:03 pm

    People, come to think of this: Even prostitutes do not do their sex thing in the presence of a group cheering them, more so in a moving vehicle,otherwise, it mostl likely is forced on the woman. At least one who procures sex would like to have their sex acts in a discreet way or place. One more thing, if Nicole had that consensual sex with Smith, how come she would not be able to wear her pants back properly. When she was seen with her pants worn on the wrong way (zip at the back), it only proved that she did not put them on herself, and that those marines put them on to her in haste or/and also to spite her. Those marines are beasts.

  85. Justice Seeker said,

    November 12, 2006 at 6:47 pm

    Oh come on! Let’s see..
    “Even prostitutes do not do their sex thing in the presence of a group” Well, a) that’s probably more for the customer’s anonymity than the prostitute’s modesty, b) prostitution is illegal, isn’t it?, and c) the back seat of a van is not exactly in front of…there is a certain amount of privacy from the rest of the vehicle.
    “cheering them,” I am under the impression that all of the parties were returning from an evening of drinking alcohol. I would imagine if I were among a group of young men, and I discovered that my buddy was having sex with a lady in the back seat, it’s rather likely that I would say “Go Smith” in the context of everyone having a good time. There is no evidence of them surrounding her and egging him on. On the contrary, I believe that the type of people who would condone rape and even egg someone on would definitely have tried to have a turn. They would be beasts. None of that happened here.
    “more so in a moving vehicle,” As I said, there is a certain amount of privacy afforded to the persons in the back seat of any car, not to mention the fact that most rapists would choose to attack someone in a more private location. Why would they CHOOSE to do it in a moving van, in a foreign country, with witnesses including a Filipino driver?
    “otherwise, it mostl likely is forced on the woman.” I’m not sure why that is a natural conclusion. A young man and young woman in the dark, in the back seat of a car separated from the music and people laughing and talking in the front, after having several drinks and dancing and liking each other. I can easily see consensual sex as opposed to rape.

    In the Philippines, is it common for rapists to wear a condom and dress their victims after the fact? Why wouldn’t they just take off out of the van to their ship? Why bother to dress her at all? Or could it be that in HER haste, with the embarassment of the van stopping, the doors opening, and the lights going on, SHE had a difficult time getting herself dressed?

    Do you think the courts might contemplate these questions? Or maybe they should just say “Nicole said she was raped….hang the beasts!”

  86. emay said,

    November 12, 2006 at 9:17 pm

    Oh yeh, hang the beasts – and why not? What they did was a most evil thing to be done to a woman. You do not isolate that to a filipina. Those guys have no decency and thought that bec they are whites they can just do their evil things.

    See how evil as well are the defendants of the beasts. What is this pornographic DVD they are talking about using Nicole’s name on it. They must be getting desperate. They probably are now moving heaven and earth to have the beasts go scott free. You read Phil newspapers so you know what is going on.

  87. Melba said,

    November 12, 2006 at 11:43 pm

    Justice Seeker, from your statements I gather you never understood my point. As you said, you’ve never been to my country and perhaps it’s the reason why you failed to comprehend the real scenario in this country.

  88. Justice Seeker said,

    November 13, 2006 at 12:52 am

    Yadda, yadda yadda. I’m more than done here.

  89. CrossFire said,

    November 13, 2006 at 1:07 am

    Justice Seeker:

    Really? Don’t you think that SSGT Chad Carpentier, having been promoted to Staff Sergeant in the US Marine Corps, should have the obligation to stop any kind of sex going on in the van, whether it be consensual or rape? Don’t you think he should have said to both of them that if they want to mess around, they should do it in their own privacy? You even praised the character of LC Dan Smith, however, what kind of a character he has when he can afford to have sex in the company of 3 other US Marines plus a completely stranger native Filipino driver with him, assuming Nicole was a willing partner? But the reality is she was not a willing partner, she was dead drunk with spell of blacking out while LC Smith was taking advantage of that opportunity.

    On the contrary, according to the statement made by Timoteo Soriano, the driver of the van, SSGT Carpentier was trying to conceal what was going on when Soriano made the following statement:

    Soriano claimed to have heard the other servicemen laughing and shouting “Go, go, go, Smith.”Smith, at that time, he said, was seated with the complainant. Soriano also claimed hearing the complainant shouting but could not understand what she was saying because Carpentier had turned up the volume of the stereo inside the van.

    This is a statement on the record made by a witness who was physically present in the van while this was happening. And this is a fact that could not be changed regardless of your effort to contradict this.

  90. Justice Seeker said,

    November 13, 2006 at 2:21 am

    I understand that the first statement made by Timoteo Soriano was made under duress. I believe he received a few blows before he chose to sign a statement that the police were happy with? Something like that.

    The fact that you seem so shocked that a young couple would have sex in the back of a car or van with others in the front, and that the superior officer would not tell them to stop leads me to believe that you are rather old-fashioned, naive, and prudish or possibly your whole country is.

    Anyway, emay, CrossFire, and Melba, there is nothing you can say to me to make me feel that these men don’t deserve a fair trial just as there is nothing I can say to you to make you feel that they deserve one. As far as you are concerned, Filipinas are right…Americans are evil and wrong, case closed. You three are hateful, close-minded, and racist. And I think I comprehend the real scenario just fine. I cannot and will not argue with you three about this anymore. It’s a waste of my time and I’m tired of repeating myself. Funny, someone who I know and care about has his whole life at stake here. I wonder why you handful of folks seem to enjoy repeating yourselves over and over again for months. I’m thinking that maybe you should get a life. Just a thought. I’m going back to mine and hopefully in a couple of weeks Nicole will get her justice and Dan will be back home in time for Christmas. Because justice for Nicole (and all involved) should be a verdict of not guilty.

  91. RyJPkcc said,

    November 13, 2006 at 6:15 am

    Di ko maintindihan si Nicole, na parang galit na galit sya hindi lang sa mga kano kundi sa mismong amerika. tyaka yung mga supporters nya na anti-amerika. di ba nila alam na dapat pupunta si nicole sa amerika? parang contradicting kasi ang dating sakin. sinusuportahan ng mga anti-americans si nicole, samantalang yung sinusuportahan nila, pupunta dapat ng amerika. hehehe wala lang. di ko lang talaga ma-get.

    in addition pala, parang sinasabi nung mga banners ng protesters na rapist ang mga amerkano at mga amerkano lang. may rapist din na mga japanese, chinese, aussies, even filipino rapists, kaya wag dapat ilubog yung amerikano lang ang rapists. hehehe

    Pero pagdating sa real topic, hindi ako naaawa sa kanya. kasi dapat aware sya sa mga nangyayari sa mga bars. it’s just so unfortunate na sa kanya nangyari yun.

  92. RyJPkcc said,

    November 13, 2006 at 6:26 am

    additional opinion pala, kung maninisi yung si nicole at supporters nya, sana wag gawing yung buong amerika. sana yung mga taong nagsamantala lang (kung rape nga). hindi dapat idamay yung sangkatauhan ng buong america. i was born here in the US, although filipino blood ang nasa veins ko, i consider myself an american (siempre filipino din). parang sinasabi kasi nila lahat ng americans rapist. hehehe

  93. RyJPkcc said,

    November 13, 2006 at 6:28 am

    basta ang i-protests lang dapat nila yung mga defendants, hindi yung lahat ng tao na kano. mapasundalo man o ordinaryong kano. kasi hindi naman lahat ng sundalong kano, porke anjan sa pinas eh mangre-rape na. nasa individual na pagkatao yan ng isang tao kung manre-rape sya. basta wag sisihin in general ang mga kano. yung mga accused lang.

  94. RyJPkcc said,

    November 13, 2006 at 7:07 am

    hula ko, si smith posibleng makulong, pero yung iba, acquitted sila palagay ko.
    innocent until proven guilty, and not the other way around. that’s what i think. hehehe

  95. Schumey said,

    November 13, 2006 at 10:05 am

    “We are including the case of Nicole in our activities for PPT
    especially because the rapists are actually Japan-based. Will give you
    updates on this.”

    This information was forwarded to me by the Socialist Democratic Party of Japan which is actively involved in the Permanent Peoples Tribunal in the Hague. This group has been very active with human rights violations all over the world. Some of their members are former government officials and their group also aid the UNCHR.

  96. emay said,

    November 13, 2006 at 10:32 am

    Schumey, it is good then, in case Nicole would not get justice here in her own country. Will be awaiting for your update on that. Thanks.

  97. CrossFire said,

    November 13, 2006 at 3:02 pm

    To Justice Seeker:

    Whether he was under duress is still debatable, because Pyke Torres, who investigated him, said he was cooperative when he made his first statement. Pyke Torres denied subjecting him under force when Timoteo Soriano signed his first statement. Timoteo Soriano said what he was arguing was the word “gang rape”.

    Soriano executed another affidavit on Dec. 12, 2005. In that affidavit, he accused investigator Pyke Torres of punching him twice on the back to force him to admit to witnessing a gang rape. But the new affidavit did not include the details that Soriano disclosed in his November 12 statement. Of Soriano’s activities in the evening of November 1, the new affidavit only said that he drove around Subic several American soldiers who were then on liberty up to 1:30 the following morning.

    Timoteo Soriano did not change any of the following:
    Soriano claimed to have heard the other servicemen laughing and shouting “Go, go, go, Smith.” Smith, at that time, he said, was seated with the complainant. Soriano also claimed hearing the complainant shouting but could not understand what she was saying because Carpentier had turned up the volume of the stereo inside the van.

    I am not an old-fashioned; I am just citing to you what is socially acceptable and what is not. In the presence of a high ranking officer, the act of sex, whether if be consensual or rape, should have never been allowed or consented, and much worst, concealed by turning up the volume of the stereo. Philippines, being predominantly Catholic, you can expect my country to deal with the issue about sex outside marriage, much worse when sex is being done in the presence of other people around. Regardless of religion, whether Catholic, Judaism, Fundamentalist Christian, Evangelical Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, including non-sectarian, sex done in presence of other is people is morally and socially wrong.

  98. bryan said,

    November 13, 2006 at 8:28 pm

    “(Lance Corporal Daniel) Smith raped me. His comrades cheered him on and they seemed so happy watching a live rape show. And then they took me out of the van like a pig,” she said.

  99. bryan said,

    November 13, 2006 at 8:38 pm

    cause u are a pig!i bet u mirrors and uv seen urself already! i know u know wat i mean

  100. flef said,

    November 13, 2006 at 10:21 pm

    isusulat na lang ang pangalan ni nicole, mali-mali pa. talaga nga naman oh. huli na namin kayo. akala n’yo di namin alam na nanggagaling lang ang comments n’yo sa IISANG IP ADDRESS? in other jurisdictions, they call this black propaganda. in this jurisdiction, we call it GUILTY BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT.

  101. emay said,

    November 13, 2006 at 10:39 pm

    Sorry flef, i did not get you. Are you for or against Nicole? Who are you referring to with only one IP address? Are they the marine defenders? I was looking for your previous posts to know which side you are, but was unsuccessful. I thought i better clear it up right here.

    Well, if they refer to the marine defenders, that means they use only one computer. It is either there is only one person involve, or a group of people using the same computer. That is revealing. I think they would be very busy on the offensive in the ensuing days since the day of reckoning is coming near.

    If you are referring to Nicoles defender, just like me, then you are deadly wrong. Am an independent person.

  102. bryan said,

    November 13, 2006 at 10:47 pm

    NAMES CAM BE SPELLED WRONG BUT I DONT THINK PICTURES DO. 🙂 RIGHT FLEF? ANYWAY EMAY UR SAYING THAT UR INDEPENDENT?I SEE SO U REALLY NEED TO OWRK FOR THIS BLOG SO U CAN EARN A LOT DONT U THINK SO?

  103. fmmwillow said,

    November 14, 2006 at 5:09 am

    wow, what an argument. i enjoy reading it. everyone has its own reasons. i personally believe that there was no rape. i have doubt that a crime of rape happened. Nicole must prove to the court that a raped was committed beyond reasonable doubt for this is a criminal case.

  104. Angelo said,

    November 14, 2006 at 7:43 am

    The case of Nicole is not a question of race. It’s a question of crime and policies.

    Crimes maybe committed by any people regardless of race; whether you are an american, a filipino, a german or any species with sufficient rational thinking. Rape is a crime, anyone who rapes an innocent woman should be punished under the law in a democratic land regardless of who you are or from what race you came. Anyone who found guilty of this crime should be placed in prison or be punished by death after fair trial before an impartial justices or judges.

    It is also a question of policies. It is the VFA, a policy orchestrated by non-nationalist greedy Filipino politicians (after the pressures of foreign powers) who agreed and allow the american servicemen take steps in our native soil. …strong indications of our subservient national security, a clear manifestation of our incapacity to defend ourselves against state enemies. …strong indication of the absence of our national independence and national patrimony. The sacrifices of our heroes in the past, the blood of the Filipino martyrs, the blood of Jose Rizal, of Andres Bonifacio, of Diego Silang, and thousands of filipinos who gave their lives, their blood which were sacrificed as a high price in order to atone our liberty from foreign invaders are all placed into shameful state. Their dreams of liberty are betrayed. And to my dismay, I learned that it is also the policy of the Filipino (In)Justice Secretary Gonzales to express his (unholy) opinion against the filing and prosecution of American soldiers who are suspected of commiting rape against a Filipino woman.

    We should have nothing against those Americans who are living peacefully in the Philippines or anywhere in the world. We have nothing against those American nationals who want to create good friendship and brotherhood with us Filipinos. You are very welcome to enjoy your life here in the Philippines and offer our utmost hospitality and kindness. I know that the Almighty created this Earth as a habitat of man, any human race can go anywhere, and each of them should love each other and treat each with due respect.

    If there are things which I oppose, they are the commission of crimes and the policies of this country which rapes our nation. It is the policy of this country which rapes its own sovereignty and freedom sponsored by greedy Filipino political leaders at the pressure of foreign imperial powers.

    To the four American suspects of the rape, of course they deserve to be considered innocent. Let’s wait for the court’s verdict. Let’s respect them and treat them as a human being having the same face and shape as we have. They should enjoy their rights to defend themselves without any pressures and present evidences before the court. As a human being, they should also be protected by human laws (even if human fails to implement divine laws).

    Nicole, as the complainant, should also be given due capacity and support for the prosecution of her rape case. In this way, true justice might be served. But the voices of the (In)Justice Secretary Gonzales still lingers to my ears, he is partial and always fails to do justice. Sometimes (or in this case), things that should happen does not happen. In this situation where true justice should be served, I doubt the credibility and integrity of some institutions.

  105. flef said,

    November 14, 2006 at 9:12 am

    the comments that are criticizing Nicole, allegedly written by several people, are coming from the SAME IP ADDRESS. we might not know who you are, but we know why you’re doing this. parties who engage in black propaganda do so because of desperation, because of lack of faith in the merits of their case. i keep tabs with the moderators of this blog. no one is being paid to give positive comments and to contribute to healthy, civilized discussion in here.

  106. aileen said,

    November 14, 2006 at 9:18 am

    i am sorry that you are so bitter, bryan. i earn enough in my job. i don’t need to be paid to keep this blog.

  107. emay said,

    November 14, 2006 at 10:58 am

    So the marine defenders are the ones with a single IP address. It can only be expected. They pretend to be many for show, when in fact there is only one. Ha ha ha That is why they tell the same thing and same foul language. I do not even bother to read their postings full of profanities.

  108. Melba said,

    November 14, 2006 at 2:37 pm

    Geez, kaya pala the comments and invectives( contents and patterns) are seemingly coming from the same person. Include the patterns in errors in data and spelling, they also appear to be similar.

    And to think they were throwing these erroneous accusations at us! Blind multiplication of identity…. unless the writer himself and herself experiences fugue and multiple personality upon reflection of the subic rape case. Hahaha!

    Too bad, if black propaganda is all they can do to destroy Nicole’s credibility they should have been mindful of the defense’s wisdom and plain common sense in not expounding too much on character assassination (i.e. gossip over Nicole’s way of life in Zambo) because they know these arguments/lies don’t hold water.

    Unless, for whatever reason, they are too bitter over “Nicole” herself.

  109. Melba said,

    November 14, 2006 at 2:51 pm

    And to those who accuse “Nicole’s” supporters of being paid to keep blogging support messages and commentaries must never have, in their entire lives, supported anyone without some form of remuneration. They could not comprehend the reality and existence of advocacy and cooperation.

    Unless you, yourselves are paid to nurture black propaganda against the victim.

  110. TK said,

    November 15, 2006 at 12:00 pm

    there’s no need to disable the comments. we know we can’t believe anonymous people spewing black propaganda. I support Nicole. But this is a free country. Keep the comments open. Those attacking nicole has rights too. chief of them is the right to shoot one’s foot. in public/cyberspace.

    blocking comments is a fascistic way of dealing with morons. it makes you guys no worse than them. I’m sorry.

  111. emay said,

    November 15, 2006 at 12:10 pm

    I read from ‘Bulatlat’ (on line edition) that there was this woman who actually witnessed this van used in the rape, going around in the vicinity there in Subic with a loud music on. The report or news was datelined Nov 2005. She said a used orange condom was actually thrown on her direction landing on her feet. Used because according to her it was sticky. The presumption made was this was another condom, meaning there was a second man that raped Nicole inside the van.

    Am not sure if this woman was allowed to testify. I was trying to read all the court summary of the proceedings, but my comp was acting up recently and i was not able to open up the earlier summaries. Can anyone on the know be kind enough to post here if she was in fact was able or allowed to testify?

  112. CrossFire said,

    November 15, 2006 at 1:32 pm

    I totally agree that this blog has gone haywire, especially for those comments that are going too personal instead of making constructive comments. I noticed that some, and I am not saying all, who are against Nicole are getting very personal and loosing respect to her, as well as to those who are pro Nicole. I am personally intimated by those personal comments who are disrespectful that I decided that it is better for me to just keep silent.

    To the Administrator of this blog web site, may I request not to disable this site. My suggestion is to screen out all the comments before it is publish in this site.

    To those people who are respectful in their comments, whether they are pro or against Nicole, I learn from your comments by hearing both sides of your opinion and I will really miss you all if this site will be disabled.

  113. November 16, 2006 at 12:38 am

    we can deal with the ugly comments against nicole. in fact, she reads this blog. but some have gone overboard; they’ve been spreading her real name here and we can’t tolerate that.

  114. CrossFire said,

    November 16, 2006 at 2:06 am

    Emay:

    I have been researching about the other witness that you mentioned, but still have not found anything on that subject.

    However, one thing that I found out is that while SSGT Chad Carpentier was shouting “Go, go, Smith”, the three men take turns shouting “F**k! F**k!”. [What is new to me are as follows:] The three men stand on their knees, their backs to the driver. Driver says the group did not take turns raping the victim. Driver tries to switch on the light inside the van. Carpentier stops him. Carpentier instead turns up the radio louder. The incident takes 10 to 20 minutes.

    The Starex van stops somewhere along Alava Pier and there unloads the girl. Driver says victim’s pants lowered to her knees.

  115. Melba said,

    November 16, 2006 at 2:09 am

    In view of protecting “Nicole” I find it proper to block an avenue where respect is no longer practiced.

    I don’t think this move is outright fascistic, where the greater concern of protecting the victim is of prime importance.

    While the task force has the right to disable what they deem is destructive, the internet is still a free space where viewpoints can be expressed. That in itself, is freedom.

  116. November 16, 2006 at 3:20 am

    Medyo madugo nga, pero moderated comments lang ang solusyon…

  117. TK said,

    November 16, 2006 at 3:28 am

    then screen out her real name. but print the rest. even if I personally think it’s garbage. I believe Nicole deserves Justice. Those “men” should at the very LEAST be dishonorably discharged for conduct unbecoming an officer and a HUMAN. my posts here and in my blog will bear me out. What I admire about NICOLE is her courage. Please don’t tell me she fears to see her name printed here in cyberspace. that’s a big, freaking bull.

    and to all those who are filling this forum/blog with garbage

    SANA AY HINDI MAGAHASA ANG SINO MANG BABAE NA KAKILALA/KAMAGANAK NYO. (I hope none of your female friends/loved ones ever gets raped.)

    ang isang natutunan ko dito, pag inakusahan ka na rapist ka, sabihin mo lang na prostitute ang nagaakusa sa yo… marami pa rin palang sinto sintong maniniwala sa yo.

  118. emay said,

    November 16, 2006 at 6:08 am

    Firstly, NIcole i admire your courage and also that of your family. What you did was right – bringing them to the court. Had you been silent, who knows they can reoffend and another woman or women will suffer. Offenders like them usually repeat their crimes, sometimes many times over. Imagine how many women you will have potentially saved. The reality is that in many countries, many crimes could have been prevented had the offenders been jailed the first time they committed a crime.

    I agree with Crossfire, just put in control comments of the bloggers. Irresponsible comments shd not be allowed.

    To the infobureau: You are doing a great job. I learned heaps from this site . Hope you stay until we know the results.

  119. Semper Fi said,

    November 16, 2006 at 7:13 am

    Please post the Names of ALL the duplicate commentors. I am as curious as everyone else is to see who they are.

    Thanks

    Semper FI

  120. emay said,

    November 16, 2006 at 10:50 pm

    Thanks CrossFire, that is very mcuh appreciated. I have here the link to the page about the witness i was talking about. here

  121. RyJPkcc said,

    November 17, 2006 at 11:57 pm

    yeah post all their names or their IPs. hehehe well i know i’m not a duplicate. hehehe anyways, i respect nicole, but i’m really neutral but i lean towards more of the americans. like i said and anyone else said, innocent until proven guilty.

    im curious if the admin/moderator of this site is really able to get the IP addresses of people that post comments here. hehehe as a sample, can you tell me the last 4 digit of my IP? Just curious hehehe

  122. November 18, 2006 at 3:26 am

    RyJPKcc: it’s 8190.
    emay: nicole and her lawyer went to subic in august to meet with that woman. i’m not sure why she wasn’t added to the witnesses.

  123. CrossFire said,

    November 18, 2006 at 4:39 pm

    RyJPkcc: With all the floating sniffing software technology, it is very easy to get your external IP address, so don’t be surprised it can be done. As long as your provider does not disable your Internal Control Message Protocol (ICMP) and your setting in the firewall allows incoming echo request, your external IP address is open to the public.

  124. CrossFire said,

    November 18, 2006 at 6:48 pm

    Correction:
    Sorry for the typo error: ICMP is Internet (instead of Internal) Control Message Protocol.

  125. RyJPkcc said,

    November 18, 2006 at 7:26 pm

    wow i’m impressed, that is my last 4 digit IP. hehehe

    anyways, i wonder what’s going to happen if all of them get acquitted? or what’s going to happen if it’s the opposite? i wonder if nicole still wants to go to the US?

  126. CrossFire said,

    November 18, 2006 at 10:35 pm

    Emay: I find it difficult to accept the story made by “Olivia”, the woman who claimed a used orange condom was actually thrown on her direction landing on her left foot. According to her story, during the night of Nov. 1, 2005, she encountered the Starex van 5 times in a row, and I am assuming she was roaming around within an area of 1 Km distance by foot. It seems that encountering that Starex van 5 times during that night is hard for me to believe. Maybe that was the reason she was not selected to be a witness during the court hearing.

  127. CrossFire said,

    November 19, 2006 at 4:17 pm

    Here is an article that just came out and I am posting it here FYI:

    From: ROSS HUNT, 2617 Queen Ann court, Springfield, Tennessee, USA

    Media seem to have judged accused US servicemen

    First posted 06:01am (Mla time) Nov 18, 2006
    INQ7.net

    It SEEMS that the media in the Philippines have already made their mind up that the US soldiers accused in the Subic rape case are guilty. Never at any point have I seen in the least bit, in all the newspaper stories about the case, equal treatment of both sides of the issue. It seems like the media are using this issue to push other issues, as always. No wonder the soldiers are reluctant to give themselves over freely to Philippine government. The Philippine media are seeking to crucify them every chance they get.
    Pressures from you and your harsh words only prevent them from moving around freely, because they are scared of what may happen to them. Whether guilty or not, they don’t deserve the lynch-mob treatment from the media. Try and do a better job for the sake of us all.
    ROSS HUNT, 2617 Queen Ann court, Springfield, Tennessee, USA (via e-mail)

  128. CrossFire said,

    November 19, 2006 at 4:25 pm

    To Ross Hunt:

    Yes, it is true the media made up their mind that the US Soldiers are guilty, not because they are putting pressure for a decision to give favor to Nicole, but the voice of the Filipino people are based on Nicole statement and the corroboration of the witnesses and evidences presented. The US Marines can not produce a single witness to corroborate what they are claiming that it is consensual. The people of the Philippines is crying to prevent any US-Philippine political fallout that might affect Nicole’s case The fact that the Philippine Government DoJ Secretary and his appointed Prosecutors gave the defense a free ride by not subjecting the US Marines under excruciating detailed cross examination, and skipping the rebuttal, seems that Philippine officials are giving more importance in protecting the RP-US relations without regard to the true justice that Nicole is seeking.

  129. Schumey said,

    November 20, 2006 at 1:13 pm

    I seldom comment on this site. I must admit that some comments are way uncalled for. I don’t support moderation but things are getting out of hand. My friends and I are closely monitoring this case. Progressive groups in Japan and Europe are also monitoring the developments.

    I hope that justice will be served.

  130. RyJPkcc said,

    November 21, 2006 at 6:30 am

    I didn’t understand what’s religion got to do with this? hehe sorry TK. When will the case end? I know it’s in Nov but not sure the exact date. =) I can’t wait to read some reactions here after this case ends.

  131. emay said,

    November 21, 2006 at 9:49 am

    Crossfire, I have not been to Subic so i do not know specific places mentioned thereabout, so you may be right. Also Nicole’s lawyer, in her good judgment, probably saw loopholes about her stories and decided not to let her be a witness.

    I have a contrary view with that of Ross Hunt. There was not too many media people covering the case, much so, writing in her favour. I mean, you google and there wasn’t even enough story you can find about this case. Also, if there are people already judging in favor of Nicole, there are also some who also are defending them, notably Fr. Reuter and one mentioned above with the name of Pastor Mel Go as mentioned by blogger TK. What could have been their basis in judging so. That they are clean-cut, soft spoken and not wild people? Are they enough basis? The witnesses of the marines are they themselves, so that is too self serving. At least, those who are finding those marines guilty have basis, the testimonies of third party witnesses.

    Another thing, the driver of the van whose original statement would have pinned those marines, recanted. Why could he possibly recant, if the police had all the equipment and procedures in place. Are the police force in the Phil not video taping the interview? If there was there could have been no claim of ‘duress’. Am no lawyer, but i watched a lot of crime scene investigations on tv. I think it does not need a lot of intelligence to determine whether they are guilty or not. The evidences speak for themselves, unless —-?????. We will see what would happen!!!

  132. CrossFire said,

    November 24, 2006 at 2:37 am

    News has just been released from ANC on 11/28/2006 at 10:30 AM Manila time, that the judgment day has been moved from November 27 to December 4 at 1:00 PM.

  133. CrossFire said,

    November 24, 2006 at 2:39 am

    Correctiona: The news was released on Nov. 24, 2006 at 10:30 AM Manila time about the change from November 27 to December 4th at 1:00 PM.

  134. CrossFire said,

    November 25, 2006 at 3:15 pm

    I totally agree with you Emay about your comment that the statement made by Timoteo Soriano, Jr., the driver of the Starex van, would have pinned down the US Marines. This is the reason why I have been thinking from the start of this case why the Prosecutor side did not give Timoteo Soriano the immunity from being prosecuted. He is the key witness that might make this case easier had he been granted the immunity from prosection. His witness is so valuable that if he was able to speak up about what he had seen during that time without fear of self-incrimination, this case would have been easier.

    Granting an immunity from being prosecuted is a common practice in the US and I am citing a clear description of this as to why it is important in some cases:

    Immunity from Prosecution

    “State and federal statutes may grant witnesses immunity from prosecution for the use of their testimony in court or before a grand jury. Sometimes, the testimony of one witness is so valuable to the goals of crime prevention and justice that the promise of allowing that witness to go unpunished is a fair trade……………. Although the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution grants witnesses a privilege against self-incrimination, the U.S. Supreme Court has permitted prosecutors to overcome this privilege by granting witnesses immunity. Prosecutors have the sole discretion to grant immunity to witnesses who appear before a grand jury or at trial.”

  135. gurl said,

    November 27, 2006 at 12:24 pm

    oi emily..r u dat xure dat nicole is a professional soloflight?? do u hve proofs?
    do u knw d 10 commandments of God? “thou shall not bare false witness against thy neighbor”
    and how xure r u with ure statement “Marami rin po akong kakilala at kaibigan na mga US Marine at US Navy at alam ko na hindi ganun ang mga kano.”
    why? r u an american? do u knw d attitudes of all americans???!!! npaka ka man..ure a Filipina but u seem so biased to d americans..do knw d whole s2ry? r u there wen nicole was raped? why r u dat confident dat nicole s just making s2ries jst for publicity?? poor gurl emily..dnt be so dumb, unless u rily r..

  136. gurl said,

    November 27, 2006 at 12:32 pm

    people..dont be so judgemental..!!!
    dont be biased..!!

    u r ryt in ure own opinion!!!

    God knows wat rily happened..

    and His the only one hu has the ryt to judge Nicole & the us marines who raped her!!

    Para kaung hndi mga Pilipino!!

  137. Melba said,

    November 29, 2006 at 2:55 am

    May Dec 4, 2006 be of the momentous date for justice to all the victims of Rape and violence against women

  138. CYRIL said,

    November 29, 2006 at 6:41 am

    “people..dont be so judgemental..!!!”

    “Nicole & the us marines who RAPED her!!”

    Talkabout being judgemental…..

    Funny, very funny indeed….

  139. CYRIL said,

    November 29, 2006 at 6:45 am

    “Para kaung hndi mga Pilipino!!”

    Does being a Filipino warrant us to be judgemental towards people of other races just because the one accusing them is also a Filipino? Doesn’t anybody deserve the benefit of a doubt anymore? Where is fairness in all of ths?

  140. sociology stud said,

    December 1, 2006 at 3:23 am

    it’s sad to know that upto now people are divided with their opinions and beliefs about this case.

    on the 4th it will be the promulgation, yet there are still some people who says it was a consensual sex. i know every person has the right for their own opinion, but it goes with the right information and knowledge about something before you express such comments and opinions.

    i believe that everyone who comments here read all the articles written and follows the news about the case. because if not, you won’t have the interest in writing your comments her in the first place. unless, you are tasked to spread black propagandas here.

    but, my question is, DO YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?!?

    i mean, how well do you know this case? how well do you know nicole or the US Marines? some of the comments i’ve read says they know nicole or the US marines personally, and that either the two parties cannot do such thing that they are being accused of (nicole for being accused of having consensual sex and saying she was raped after, the US marines for the rape accusations).

    either nicole or the US marines are worthy of the benefit of the doubt.

    i personally believe that nicole was raped. yes. i am a supporter of nicole myself. and i am not a member of any organizations who help her nor a member of her family or even from her circle of friends.

    for me, i do believe that.. first,anyone who risks her name and credibility for just to attain justice in spite of all bad comments and black propagandas is enough to say she is telling the truth. second, i know that every woman do not deserve to be raped. because they are also part of the society who should be treated equally and with respect. another, given that she was not raped and they really just had consensual sex, the act of dumping a woman in the gutter with pants off and condom on her pants is an embarrassment and a form of violence against women. VAW is also a public crime in case you people don’t know.

    i hope the things i wrote here gives anything that might help you people on your opinions. i do not intend to have debates or arguements with you. im just expressing what i have in mind.

  141. usisera said,

    December 2, 2006 at 1:39 am

    owen bayking, u have a funny way of putting your emotions in words, bading ka ba? OWEN BAKLING? hehehe

    whether nicole is telling the truth or not, it’s all up to the court to rule. Unfortunately, Philippine courts have a very notorious reputation when it comes to sell-outs. Further, the executive branch can always impose its rule on the judiciary. Since this is as much as a political case as it is a criminal case, we all know what to expect.

    i feel sorry for nicole. whether she was a bar girl or otherwise, no man could just shove his penis up her and ignore her protests, in whatever form it may be.

    but i feel more sorry for my country. nicole’s case shocked the entire nation when we first heard of her case, but just a few months later, nobody gave a damn, no serious undertaking was spearheaded by both national and local governments to resolve the underlying cause of why such thing happened. same thing when the US bases were removed from the country, no american politician ever expressed concern on the pollution they wreaked. no american official ever sent help to filipino kids who were born with diseases caused by the water contamination.

    the american governtment is the worst people to ever walk this earth. i hope the american people will make the right decision come election time.

  142. yani said,

    December 2, 2006 at 2:55 pm

    pls. wag naman kayong magaway just because of that isue,alam kong we have to know anything about that isue simply because we care,pero sana naman wag tayong mag-away, just think na we are different from one another kasabay nun ang pag-iiba ng ating mga opinion, if emily thinks americans are good and they are our friends then that should be fine to us, we dont need to argue with her because its her opinion, if melba thinks that what happened to nicole needs justice then it should be also fine to everyone of us, lets just consider the opinion of both side. tingin ko we should consider nicoles feelings regarding the case, kasi whatever na sabihin natin, may totoong relationship man si nicole at si smith, pag ayaw nya yung nangyaring sex between them, we can consider it as rape kasi ayaw nya yung nangyari. Pero on the side of the americans, may point din sila kasi kung nagpakita naman talaga ng motibo si nicole ay iisipin nila na gusto ni nicole yung nangyari. Nobody can really tell, kasi lahat naman tayo nagbibigay lang ng opinion depende sa mga nababasa natin at sa mga naririnig natin, but we can’t tell na tama tayo kasi we are not in that place nung nangyari yun. Pls. sana walang magalit sa opinion ko.

  143. gr8inferno said,

    December 3, 2006 at 8:13 am

    My first time reading this blog, All I can is I don’t now enough about this case. I am a Filipino-American. But I think what “Nicole” ‘s agenda here is sympathy from others. I also see patterns in her writings, I don’t who you are Nichole but you’re over doing it, but if you are honest and truly the victim , you should let justice do their job. For the American GI’s, wise up ,and if your guilty, shame on you.

  144. dyna said,

    December 4, 2006 at 6:50 am

    paano ba yan, nahatulan na ang may sala…all i can is “hindi lahat ng tao pare-pareho ang ugali.” kung may mabait meron ding hindi. for Nicole keep on going kung ano sa palagay mo ang tama para sa sarili mo…

  145. vanessa said,

    December 4, 2006 at 9:18 am

    I have two jobs that require me to be at work for almost 20 hours a day. That is the reason I now feel so restless about this case. It happened over a year ago and I never even knew about it. I just heard my brother asking my other brother to see if the verdict was in. I wondered what would interest my brothers that much since they normally don’t care for these things. Forgive me but I must say that my initial reaction was to side with the Americans. I watched the proceedings and not soon after hit cyberspace for more details. I only wish I had the details of the case so I’ll be justified in my support of Smith.

    I am well-versed in the criminal justice system, and suffice it to say, I am big on evidence. Operating on what I know and what I’ve heard, there WAS reasonable doubt in that there was conflicting testimony of whether Nicole was intoxicated beyond rational thought or self-defense; and contrary to common belief, the angle of vaginal lacerations considered to be consistent with rape do not always amount to rape. Either or both party could’ve been into BDSM for all we know and that would achieve the same effect. Whatever the case was, it still goes back to how it all played out. For every pleasure there is an accompanying responsibility. Needless to say, everyone is responsible for his actions. Nobody cares how drunk you want to be as long as you can ultimately account for your actions and be willing to suffer the consequences. And before you can even utter a syllable, this does not mean that if someone rapes you because of that, he will be let off the hook. He will still be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. All the courts in the world can sentence your rapist to 70 times 7 life sentences but in the end you will have to deal with the fact that none of it would’ve happened if you were responsible enough to stay sober if you were going out alone. If you weren’t out alone, where were all your friends? Were they as wasted as you were? Were you drugged? That wouldn’t have happened if there were somebody there to look out for you or if you yourself valued your safety enough to stay sober or to know better than keeping the company of more men than you can handle. Or more importantly, a situation that’s beyond whatever comprehension you can muster—like trying out for American Idol when you know you’re William Hung. Then again the thought probably never even occurred to you. You just wanted to have fun.

    The other comments make a LOT of sense. What do we know Subic to be? For all we know you picked that place in the hopes of hooking up with an American. If you were out with those Americans–or ANY man, for that matter–you should’ve been careful. Why do you think we teach our children to not talk to strangers? Judgment is key! If you were out alone you should know that your other foot is always in the grave. If those men passed you by in the street and grabbed you, why the hell were you walking alone at night in a place like that? Worse, why were you walking alone AND INTOXICATED at night in a place like that? You yourself said in your retrospective essay that an all-new horde of marines were there on their R&R. what do you think they’re there for, prayer? And all of you speak of justice. Fair enough. Now, I ask you, is it fair that you, Nicole, now see all these soldiers to be rapists? That is just WRONG.

    I have so much going on in my mind I don’t even know how to put it all in here. Like I said, I don’t have the details of the case. But if one takes the time to take all of this in, it all boils down to common sense. Common sense is not so common. There are people with two or three degrees and masters even, who meet their demise for a really stupid reason. I am trying so hard to be objective here but apparently, I am not succeeding at it. It’s just that if there’s one thing I cannot tolerate, it’s stupidity. By stupidity I don’t mean just the scholastic aspect. Many people have gone through life with little or no education and still lived fruitfully. It all boils down to how you use the hand you were dealt with and the lessons life teaches you along the way. If you had sound judgment nothing as mundane as the precursory events of that night would’ve ended with you being raped.

    To the hosts of this site, you should not be upset about all the negative comments you get. You did say you wanted to know what people had to say, didn’t you? So here you are. What goes on in this site has no bearing in court or on Nicole. Eleanor Roosevelt said, “Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent.” I am someone who has been misconstrued most of my life but did I let that get to me? Hell, no! I am where I am now because I learned to use those false accusations in my favor. Those rumors were spun out of envy or whatever else their reasons were, and I couldn’t care less because ultimately, they do not define who and what I am. Talk eventually dies. How you see yourself and the way you handle yourself amidst that is what brings you over to another day. If Nicole really IS a victim, all this negativity should only make her stronger.

    I want to go on but I don’t think there’s room for that here; so allow me to enlighten you on why I’m inclined to believe the Americans.

    The Philippine culture is that of stubborn adherence to tradition despite proof of change being the better way. Add to that the penchant for ridiculous superstition and you get a country that, if at all, moves sluggishly forward. American culture on the other hand is progressive, liberal. We like to think our justice system operates like clockwork but we have to admit it is still and more often than not, a conspiracy among the elite and the people in high office. How can it not be with the judge carrying his weight around the entire case? The Americans have the jury system. I wish we had that here. Then again, if we were to have jurors deeply rooted in Philippine culture, we might as well have the plaintiff’s family and friends on the jury stand as I’m sure BIAS would saturate the courtroom. [sigh]

    Well, so much for all that. I have not even gotten into the argument of whether or not Smith was guilty of rape to begin with. I am aware that this will elicit both negative and positive responses but I am not in the least apologetic of my contention. True, my perspective is not even in the same zip code as that of Nicole and her supporters, but the reason it isn’t is that I look out for myself. When I have to make any kind of decision I look into the future and try to visualize the worst case scenario. Being only human I do not always make the right choices. But if I happen to choose against the wiser decision I take full responsibility of my actions and face the consequences head on. For the most part, however, I make sure that I don’t bring myself to situations that can only end in tragedy. We all should.

  146. simplywired said,

    December 4, 2006 at 9:21 am

    “Rape is the only crime in which the victim becomes the accused.”

    May justice prevail.

  147. vanessa said,

    December 4, 2006 at 9:26 am

    In addendum, justice is not the only motive for pressing charges; money, envy, bitterness, scorn, rejection, and obsession are, too. And these are far stronger motives. There’s a fine line between sanity and insanity so don’t tell me I’m being ridiculous.

  148. vic said,

    December 4, 2006 at 10:55 am

    The verdict handed down by the court toward the principal accused as guilty as charged was right according to evidence presented, as summarized in the verdict, but I’m not convinced the others co-accused are not-quilty of lesser offense of Accessories to the Crime, or Contributory to the crime. They were there, they knew what was happening, they were cheering, how could they be pronounced as the decision seemed to convey that they were just innocent bystanders? Still a partial success, but that is Justice, they can no longer be charged for the same offence, for that would amount to double jeopardy. I believe that the court decision, however, the system works is a start for a better Justice for all, no matter which one belongs in this very uneven playing field in a very Selective Judicial System that was critizised by so many before. And for Nicole, a vindication…

  149. December 4, 2006 at 4:12 pm

    hi nicole and friends,

    (couldn’t comment on the proper page, sorry…)

    i would want to say congratulations on your vindication, nicole, but as it is i’m not too happy with the verdict.

    http://jester-in-exile.blogspot.com/2006/12/justice-just-this.html

    be it the rape of a filipina, be it the murder of an activist, be it the harassment of a journalist, they all boil down to this: that senseless violence diminishes us all, and justice must given completely.

    still, it’s a step forward in protecting our women. kudos to you, nicole, for your courage, and may you continue to serve as an inspiration and a source of strength for filipinas also fighting for justice, of whatever nature, for whatever cause.

  150. chares said,

    December 4, 2006 at 5:59 pm

    at last… the promulagation’s now over.. i commend judge pozon for his independent thinking. (though i think it was still not absolute justice at all.. the others, freed?! tsk tsk)
    to those who have prejudiced Nicole, you just don’t know the feeling of how it is to risk one’s own name and credibility. Nicole just stood up for her rights, but suffered the consequences for doing so.

    but now, look at what happened…

    but this isn’t still the finale..

    appeals.. here they come..

  151. CrossFire said,

    December 4, 2006 at 7:11 pm

    I am only partially happy with the verdict and I strongly believed that SSGT Chad Carpentier should also be convicted, because, being a Senior Staff Sergeant, he has the full responsibility to control the behaviour of the US Marines under him. When Timeteo Soriano Jr. became suspicious of what was going on, SSGT Carpentier tried to conceal what was going on by turning up the volume of the stereo, and I even read that Soriano was trying to turn on the light inside the van, but Carpentier stopped him.

    The monetary penalty damages of P100,000 is just too small. I was thinking it would reach to several hundred thousand US dollars.

  152. emay said,

    December 4, 2006 at 9:24 pm

    Well, the court had decided and decided that Nicole is the one telling the truth. No amount of justifications for acts of the americans would do good anymore. This is triumph of the good against evil.

    Well done Nicole, hope you will find happiness and great life after this episode. Thank you too for fighting for the dignity of yourself and the filipino women.

  153. eps said,

    December 4, 2006 at 10:38 pm

    am someone who has been misconstrued most of my life but did I let that get to me? Hell, no! I am where I am now because I learned to use those false accusations in my favor — WHERE ARE U NOW NA NGA BA VANESSA? HAHAHAHA

  154. venice said,

    December 5, 2006 at 4:54 am

    JUSTICE?????

    for whom? against from who?

    pilipino laban sa kano….. ano ba talaga?

    its abt a woman accusing a man of rape….

    this is not about being a filipino its about justice to know the real truth….

    kakampi tayo kay NICOLE just because pilipino sya? di ba mali un we should

    not base it on that matter. JUSTICE is not like that…. nakakahiya tayo….

    BEing a woman? dahil babae sya i don’t know Nicole very well pero the

    credibility of the person involve is important. Bat sya pupunta don bat sya

    naglalasing ( to the extend na di na nya kaya ung sarili niya dahil sa

    kalasingan) bat siya sumama ala ba sya kasama that night?

    Look guys is it worthy to fight for that person? just a question?

    Smith – the filipino are being unfair to him. may mga rally against him… ung

    mga nag-rarally alam ba nila kung ano talaga ang nangyari, kilala ba nila

    kung sino ang sinusuportahan nila… maybe ang sagot lang nila si “NICOLE,

    kababayan natin, pilipina” is JUSTICE base on that…………..

    nakakahiya – kasama ang mga kababayan natin sa pag-usad ng maling

    proseso ng hustisya sa atin. If smith is Guilty then punish him pero sana

    hinayaan natin ang hustisya kasi naka-apekto ung mga rally or whatever sa

    pag-hatol (for sure)…. What if smith is not guilty – we put a 21 yrs old man

    (regardless of his nationality thats justice is) future in a dumsite…..

  155. nathaniel said,

    December 5, 2006 at 6:29 am

    Vanessa: at the worst case scenario, raping a woman who is running around like a godiva IS-STILL-WRONG. “just because you can doesn’t mean you should”.

  156. alana said,

    December 5, 2006 at 7:33 am

    well, hope you’re happy now. God is recording every second of our life. so hopefully you learned a lot from all of these. don’t ever GO OUT in clubs again, you hear? I respect you, coz babae rin ako. sino ba naman ang may gustong ma rape hindi ba? taga Olongapo ako, and I came from a family of US MILITARY, my dad was in teh navy as well as my relatives

    . pero DIYOS KO naman bakit naman hindi ka man lang nag isip nung simula pa? what were you thinking ba? ako, isang babae lalabas, sasama sa mga lalaki, maglalasing.. aysus, imposible namang walang milagrong mangyari doon diba? nasaan nga ba mga friends mo? why were you alone? lahat ng sinabi ni Vanessa at yung iba pa eh natumbok nila yun. kababae nating tao lalabas tayo, bakit naman sa subic pa, kapatid?

    sigurado ka ba talaga? baka naman nakuha ka lang dahil sa pera, we saw you on tv on how you were so happy and all. is it worth it? well, ganun talaga ang hustisya, masyadong bulag. x_o

    in fairness dun sa Kano, I feel bad rin for him. bata pa kasi eh, minsan lang naman nagkamali ganun pa ang nangyari, masyadong masaklap. ang bilis naman nung hatol na yun? bakit nga ba yung mga rapist sa pinas eh wala namang nangyayari ano. dapat yung mga mamamatay tao eh hinahatulan ng mabigat. oh my, di ko na siguro papahabain to since wala naman nang mangyayari, eh winner ka naman na.

    payong ate lang sayo, kapatid na “nicole” :

    wag na lalabas sa gabi ha? wag ka nang mag na night club or kahit anong party life sa gabi or araw. magpakaayos ka na, since you really hate american men don’t ever go within any part of the US na.

    buti mabait ang Diyos at pinagbigyan ka. the next time that happens again, I don’t know anymore. dahil siguro sa nangyari na yan, baka kinakamuhian na tayo ng mga kano. hayy.. buhay nga naman. wag ka na rin mag eenglish, kelangan straight tagalog ka na lang, iha.

    my two cents lang po.. that’s what I’m feelin’ right now. =P

    anyways, congrats.

  157. Crissaid said,

    December 5, 2006 at 11:52 am

    Alas!Nicole is in great jubilation!At first, I don’t know how will I’m going to react yesterday after hearing the Very Intellectual Decision of the court, if I’ll get irritated or be mad or I’ll just smile..I thought t’was a already a Subic Slain Case. Of course what to expect if I watched local proceedings like this…the battle of sympathy and political interest will always win more than battle of legality.

    I don’t know how good looking and big celebrity is Nicole..but one thing I admire Nicole..and its very obvious she’s a very good actress that she even magnet the sympathy of the court.

    And for those individuals behind Nicole’s agenda…I’m so sad to you guys!you just not make our country a laughing issue but a real picture of desolation.

  158. anonymous said,

    December 5, 2006 at 12:26 pm

    hmmm… grave tong blog na toh… i juz wannna drop sumthing… di ako nani2wala na nirape xa(nicole) ng mga kano… coz, kung mgkaganon man dvah ung driver ng van filipino?? d vah man lang xa tinulungan nito or anything?? kz khit cnong guys na makikita kalahi nya ginanon baka nabugbog pa nya cla smith?? then my symphaty goes for smith, kita mo sa face nya d nya accepted yung hatol… Ska sa 4 na accused 3 was accuited… magulo pagkakasavi koh pero sana magets nyo wut i want to say…

  159. thomas said,

    December 5, 2006 at 6:44 pm

    this is just another example of the poreigner being always wrong even when he is being lied to or lied upon(as in this case) if this case had been heard by an impartial judge this case would not have even made it to court. the was no valid evidence of non-consnsual sex. it was all he said she said crap!!
    and circumstainial evidense at best yet very few treated it as a innocent until proven guilty, in fact just the opposite. the fact that he was not a pinoy had most people convinced he was guilty. the “he’s not one of us so he’s guilty” mentality.

  160. Martin said,

    December 6, 2006 at 5:05 am

    Nicole, huwag mo naman sabihin na lahat ng mga troopang Kano rapist na! Maliwanag kasi sa mga t.v interview mo eh.. Ma-realize mo rin sana na maraming US servicemen na pinoy din, at naging US citizen na nagsisilbi na Ipagtanggol ang bayan na hindi nila kinalalakihan at di sila matanggap na mag silbi sa AFP.

    Ang mga pinoy US servicemen na mga iyon ay galak na galak lalo na mabigyan sila ng assignment sa bayan na kanilang nilakihan,ngunit naging mahirap sa kanila ang mabuhay kaya sila pumasok sa US military na galak at patas ang pagtrato sa kanila..

    In my 30 years stay here in the United States, nothing in my life had happened that i was discriminated at minaliit.. Malungkot man na sabihin ay sa Pilipinas lamang ako nakaranas na matinding diskriminasyon..

  161. December 6, 2006 at 9:34 am

    crossfire,

    “The monetary penalty damages of P100,000 is just too small. I was thinking it would reach to several hundred thousand US dollars.”

    certainly creates for perverts the impression that it’s cheaper to rape someone than to buy a car.

    part of the reason why i believe justice wasn’t completely served that day: the damages don’t exactly fit the gravity of the crime.

  162. Emily said,

    December 6, 2006 at 3:02 pm

    Bakit, hindi pa ba kuntento si Nicole na convicted si Smitt?, Akala ko ba, hustisya lang ang hanap nya? Sa loob ba ng isang taon, kaya bang kitain ni Nicole ang isandaang libong piso? Eh, wala nga syang permanenteng trabaho.

    Narinig ko sa 24 oras ang interview kay Nicole, tinanong sya, kung anong aral ang dapat matutunan sa nangyari, sinabi nya na dapat trusted ang kasama, at sa pag-inom, sabi nya, dapat alam natin ang level ng pag-inom. At habang iniinterview sya, halatang walang sense yung mga sagot nya.
    At tinanong sya kung bakit gusto nyang dalawin si Smitt sa Makati City Jail, ang sagot nya, gusto nya lang siguruduhin kung nandoon nga sa Smitt. Sinabi nya na sinira ni Smitt ang sarili nitong buhay, pati buhay ni Nicole ( mukhang baliktad, sya ang sumira sa buhay ni Smitt, at hindi nasira ang buhay nya. Sa katunayan, Mas gumanda pa nga lalo na Financially)

    Nicole, wala ka bang kakuntentuhan sa buhay. Mapalad ka, dahil mas maraming totoong biktima ng panggagahasa at pang-aabuso ang hindi nabibigyan ng pansin at atensyon. Lahat na ng gusto mo, nakuha mo na pero hindi ka pa rin kuntento. Sigurista! Walang kunsensya.

    Panawagan sa mga Womens Group na Supporters ni Nicole: May Dalawang Biktima ng Panggagahasa at Pang-aabuso sa Quatar, Baka naman, pwede nyo rin silang bigyan ng kahit kalahati lang ng Atensyon at tulong na ginawa nyo kay Nicole.

  163. gouki said,

    December 7, 2006 at 1:25 am

    tungkol kay nicole at ng mga akusadong nang-rape sa kanya, ayaw kong mag-comment pero tungkol sa mga grupong nakasuporta kay nicole, oo! lalo na yang GABRIELA, anakpawis and other leftist groups. hoy! tanggalin nyo na yang mga maskarang sinusuot nyo! kunwari pa kayong panig sa hustisya! yon pala’y kaanib ng mga KUMONISTA!!!! masyado namang bias ang mga sinasabi nyo tungkol sa mga akusado. ang sabihin nyo gusto lang ninyong siraan ang US dahil ito ang strongest protector of democracy. alam kong hindi ninyo goal ang katarungan kundi ang maging bansang kumonista ang Pilipinas. hindi ba kayo nagtataka mga nagbabasa tuwing may konting mali lang ng US rally kaagad ang mga ito, pero nung mag_nuclear test ang north korea nag-rally ba sila para punahin ang bansa iyon? hindi! dahil nga kapwa nila komunista. gusto nilang maging kagaya sa north korea ang pilipinas. kunwari mga human rights protectors! mga hypocrito’t hipocrita! mga NPA! nabasa ko ang mga libro ninyo halataang mga NPA kayo! kung ayaw ninyo ng democrasya edi lumayas kayo sa bansa, hindi namin kayo kailangan! manirahan kayo sa north korea and enjoy! that’s all!

  164. anne said,

    December 8, 2006 at 5:33 am

    nicole should be thankful already for that amount because i don’t think smith is really guilty…he was a victim of circumstances…i think nicole is just making up stories in order to justify her wild acts…in the first place she was the one who invited her misfortunes, she was acting very wild and that is not appropriate for a young girl like her…and if she was really educated then she would not go to such places that she knew would degrade herself…i wouldn’t blame those people who don’t believe her because it was her who behaved badly…if she wants to be respected then she must first respect herself by behaving decently!

  165. Lexine of Chicago, Illinois, USA said,

    December 8, 2006 at 6:05 pm

    I strongly agree with you, Anne!

  166. Lexine said,

    December 8, 2006 at 6:25 pm

    I still hope and pray that justice will prevail in favor of Lance Corporal Daniel Smith. I have met this guy once during my tour to the US Marine bootcamp. He was so young then and full of dreams and aspirations in life. Hope the Philippines would abide by the Visiting Forces Agreement that Smith should be in the custody US Embassy. Afterall, he had served and helped the Philippine military with pride and dignity.

  167. cranky said,

    December 9, 2006 at 1:17 am

    nicole, makonsensya ka naman, alam mo kung ano talaga ang tunay na nangyari. alam kong kahiya-hiya kapag umamin kang may kasalanan ka rin, pero lalong mas kahiya-hiya kung patuloy mong itago ang katotohanan! siguro feel na feel mo na nakuha mo ang simpatiya ng masa, well mali ka. yung mga taong nasa paligid mo are just minority groups! maingay nga lang. kailangan pa ngang manuhol para lumampas sila ng limampu na mag rally sa kalye.

  168. eugine said,

    December 9, 2006 at 5:37 am

    the decision of the judge is unfair! ‘yung MALANDI na si nicole ang dapat ikulong!

  169. Crissaid said,

    December 10, 2006 at 10:09 am

    We don’t have to be pissed off and get astonished with this kind of story Nicole has made…it’s trivial and natural phenomenon in our country.Since many of us believes it’s is just a dirty modus operandi of few individuals and realizing how shameful this scandal leaves the country, it is right to encourage everyone not to imitate Nicole. All that we can do is to work in honest mode of service and observe decentness in our actions to restore the dignity and respect of our pitiful race.Let’s move forward !

  170. Linz said,

    December 11, 2006 at 4:52 am

    Lahat tayo ay may KARAPATAN magbigay ng opinion sa mga issues ng bansa dahil tayo ay nasa isang demokratikong gobyerno…especially sa issue na ito na talaga naman napakainit kahit na naipanalo na sa regional court…pero hindi naman siguro basehan ang karapatang ito para tayo’y mangmata ng tao…maniwala man kayo o hindi sa mga taong involve sa kaso…hindi yun dahilan para gawin ito.

    OK “Nicole” is considered as a low profile lady by some people…but still she is a human and she deserves a respect from anyone…I don’t believe sa kasabihang “respect is something you earn”…as a human it should be given automatically as part of our responsibilities.

    Hindi totoo na hindi makuha ni Nicole ang sympathy ng gobyerno dahil sa hindi sila naniniwala…kundi super busy lang talaga ang gobyerno sa ibang issue na FOR THEM ay very very important. Im not saying na hindi important ang kaso na ito kaya lang may part ng government na syang dapat mangasiwa sa mga ganitong kaso…Hindi naman obligado ang Gobeyerno na makisangkot sa case na ito kasi napakarami pang ibang kaso na kailangan din ng pansin nila mismo…kaya hindi dapat gawing batayan ang hindi pakikialam ng gobyerno para masabing hindi talaga sya narape.

    Rape is not a normal rape case na iniisip nyo…na para bang ang isang babaeng naglalakad na biglang hinatak at pinuwersa ng mga lasing sa kanto…malawak ang rape case lalo na’t pinalawak ang sakop nito ng bagong rape law…hindi basehan ang pagkatao, virginity, gender, maging ang uri ng trabaho meron ang isang rape victim…kung eto ang basehan e di sana di na lang pinatunayan na ginahasa sya…sana pintunayan na lang pala na wild sya or may mababang uri sya ng trabaho.

    Hindi naman lahat ng amerikano ay magkakaperaho same with Filipinos…kaya hindi basehan na may amerikanong fiancé asawa or kaibigan ka para sabihin na di ka naniniwala dahil nga may asawa kang kano or vice versa…iba ang civilian sa army o government officials…at syempre depende parin sa tao ang kabutihan…at wala yun sa nationality.

    Wala akong kinakampihan sa kanila…Dahil una di ko sila pare-parehong kakilala…Pangalawa wala ako sa trial court para masaksihan ang mga ebidensyang prinesent ng mga taong involve sa kaso…at higit sa lahat wala ako sa pinangyarihan…nung una ngang lumabas ito wala akong pakialam…pero nung mabasa ko na ang mga komento at opinions (online and newpapers) na wala naman sapat na basehan ay somehow naawa ako for Nicole.

    But again wala akong kinakampihan…kaya ako instead na sishin ko kung sino man sa kanila…ay winiwish ko na lang na sana makapagpatuloy sila(Nicole and US Marines) sa buhay ng payapa, tahimik at walang bahid ng anumang pangangamba…sana sa kabila ng mga pagbatikos sa kanila ng ibang tao ay magkaroon sila ng katatagan na humarap sa buhay…at syempre matuto HINDI lang sila kundi lahat (both Filipino and Foreigners) sa pangyayaring ito!

    Kaya imbes na magsisihan at magbatikusan ang bawat isa…makiisa na lang tayo sa pagsira sa VFA na lantarang binabastos ang gating Constitution at mga karapatan natin bilang tao!.

  171. Linz said,

    December 11, 2006 at 5:18 am

    i somehow agree with what emily said…sa tingin ko lang dapat ay hindi na nya puntahan pa yung akusado…what for? para maginspect kung may special treatment?…ipaubaya na lang nya yun sa mga taong dapat gumawa ng service nila…isa pa talagang magkakaroon ng ganun sa case ni Smith kasi US army sya pwede syang protektahan ng US kahit na nasa anong Phil. jail pa sya dahil nga sa VFA…as you can see meron nga syang special guard dun eh…so wag na sya pumunta for that reason…and kung talagang kinasusuklaman nya yung tao hindi na nya ito gugustuhin pang makita…she already won the case so instead of abalahin nya ang sarili nya na puntahan sa selda yung tao abalahin na lang nya ang sarili nya sa sarili nyang buhay(^_^)

  172. Linz said,

    December 11, 2006 at 5:45 am

    last comment…i agree with what the guy has said…hindi dapat basta- basta kumakampi dahil sa mga personal na dahilan…di dapat kumampi porket babae sya at kapwa Filipino sya…hindi din dapat kumampi sa mga inakusahan dahil sa may mga kaibigan o asawang kano…hindi ito laban ng buong Filipino…this is just the same common case of rape…nagkataon lang na kano at army pa ang nahatulan…syempre pinakamali na huhusgahan na natin ang lahat ng US army o lahat ng kano just because of this case…lahat tayo ay iba ang mga pagiisip at pagkatao…ah basta ako manonood na lang ako ng sine..babuussh(^_^)(^_^)

  173. JS said,

    December 18, 2006 at 4:09 am

    i dont get it! what are we arguing here? Philippines vs. US, Filipinos vs. Americans? Aren’t we talking about the subic rape case? Stop using the word Filipino or American, Philippines and US, stick to the point.

    Justice has been given to Nicole.. I bet Nicole, her family and all her supporters are feasting now that Daniel Smith is in jail. Poor Daniel, he will be spending his Christmas behind cold bars.

    To Nicole, are you happy now? So, how’s your plan of going to United States?
    You regain your lost face. I saw your photo in a tabloid. You look so happy there. But anyway, why were you hiding your face the whole time during trial? You are no longer a minor. You’re even two years older than Smith. I think it is unfair to show the faces of 4 marines while this girl is hiding her’s. Oh, I get it, because she lost face.. You thought, after your “do” with Smith he will marry but your plan unfortunately didnt happen.

    You’ve won but unfortunately our president Gloria Macapagal Arroyo didnt give you a million pesos, Senator Manny Villar didnt give a house and lot either (like what he gave to the rape victim baby echegaray, remember?).

  174. Mei said,

    December 21, 2006 at 4:15 am

    Maybe shes still waiting to get one.How could a stupid parents let their girls going out in the mid of the night and back in the morning? How could you say a dalagang pilipina if shes out the whole evening going bars, dancing with different guys and just come in the morning?

  175. popup said,

    December 21, 2006 at 8:10 am

    i agree with gouki, kakainis talaga yang mga komunistang Gabriela, and other anti-US activists. they are hypocrites! nagrereklamo sila sa mga pagkakamali ng US at ng gobyerno. at nagagalit pa kapag tini-teargas o pinagpapalo ng mga pulis. human rights violation daw!
    PERO ANG TANONG:
    nagrereklamo ba sila sa mga ginagawa ng kanilang mga kapatid na mga NPA sa panununog nito ng mga bus at pamomomba dahil ayaw daw magbayad ng revolutionary taxes!
    TANONG KO ULI SA INYO MGA GABRIELA, BAYAN, BAYAN MUNA, ANAKPAWIS AND THE LIKE:
    hINDI BA HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION YAN?????????

  176. Mei said,

    December 21, 2006 at 4:59 pm

    Every people in other country pay taxes, and most country they have their own ID cards na pag may ginawang kagaguhan ang tao computerize lahat so pag ikaw ay nahuli itawag lang nila sa Immigration at titingnan lang ang computer kung may mga kaso ang mga taong yan at kung may kaso huli. Sana may ganyan din sa atin more safer ba. Kase mostly mga kaso dyan nahirap silang mahulihuli.PAG MAY ID pati address nila maditek.
    ANG MGA GABRIELA SILA NAMAN ANG SUMISIRA SA ATING BAYAN E YANG PAGRARALLY NYO INSTEAD OF GOING TO RALLY’S FOR MORE THAN WEEK OR SO WHY NOT JUST TO GO AND FIND A JOB PARA NAMAN MAY MAKAIN KAYO NO. NOT JUST TO WAIT FOR SANTA NA BIBIGYAN KAYO NG PERA. WAKE UP!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO THE BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY. SORRY TO SAY THAT NOT ANY MORE BECAUSE OF YOU GUYS. MAGTRABAHO KAYO YOUR WAISTING YOUR TIME SANTA IS NOT COMING ANYMORE TRY TO WORK AND BE A HARD WORKING PEOPLE

  177. eugine said,

    December 22, 2006 at 12:24 am

    soon maging meyembro na rin yang si Nicole ng GABRIELA-KOMUNISTA de NPA hahahaha!
    yan lang kasi ang makakasundo nya pagkatapos ng kanyang ginawa!

  178. Pro Smith said,

    December 22, 2006 at 3:36 pm

    Why are Filipinos like this? After good things that americans have done to our country, you have the nerve guys to say these bad stuff to them? And the government, they’re so brave to kick the americans out of the country, as if they can support the filipinos on their own.. If you’re going to think of it, you have to be thankful to the americans for helping us right? You know about it for sure.. This is why Philippines can’t be successful. We only notice the bad things but not the “GOOD THINGS” that Americans doing to us.. You guys have to be ashame of yourselves..

    What kind of lady would go out with 6 guys and she’s alone? I don’t know what would i think but not a descent lady for sure.. And come on, she’s an entertainer in Zamboanga and went to Subic because of the Americans. She was just hunting a foreigner and wants money from them.. Enough said!!!!!

  179. Mei said,

    December 23, 2006 at 5:28 am

    They are the heroes to this countries. To our President bigyan po natin ng pondo ang ating mga sundalo sila ang mga taong nakikipaglaban para sa ating bayan para madakip ang mga NPA and the terrories. Dpat lang na maging strong ang ating mga sundalo. Mag worry din sana tayo sa mga nangyayari sa ating bansa. Not to only one case but the all the other cases. LOOSER SI NICOLE BUT ALSO MGA KABABAYAN be more smart sabi nila mga smart ang mga pilipino but because of this people from other country don’t respect us because of unfair judgement. Di pa naman huli ang lahat e Start from the beginning we should stop corruption ang P200 billion na kinukurup ng gobernment every year. IF THIS MONEY GOES TO PEOPLE OR IF THIS MONEY GOES TO THE FUND OF THE MILITARY OF THE PHILIPPINES AND RAISE THEIR SALARIES I WOULD THINK MORE FILIPINO PEOPLE WILL JOIN THE ARMY. ATLEAST WALANG MAWAWALA AND BY THIS I KNOW PHILIPPINES WILL BECOME IN PROGRESS. TAYO PO MGA KABABAYAN ANG MAY ONE OF THE LOWEST FUND IN MILITARY SA BUONG MUNDO.Dapat lang din na i audit and mga salaries ng mga nakaupo start from the mayors to the president. By doing this we don’t need to go out of the country para lang magpakatulong.

  180. popup said,

    December 23, 2006 at 7:21 am

    To Pro-Smith:
    I presume you’re an American. well actually my friend, you don’t have to be distress if you heard some people here in the Philippines are anti-Americans because they are only very few. in fact these people are very unpopular because of their link to the communist-terrorist group NPA(New People’s Army). in many sites with many comments about the subic rape case, 90% of the comments made by Filipinos are pro-Smith. i am a university student and i had made a survey together with my classmates about the case, we got almost the same results. however in some websites, it came out that most comments are anti-smith because of biases of the editors. they don’t posts comments against the said victim of rape. i think that’s all i can say.
    GOD BLESS PHILIPPINES AND AMERICA!

  181. proud pinay! said,

    December 23, 2006 at 9:06 pm

    one thing that i dont understand is that when someone gets bad pati country nila nadadamay. and even the race! all countries even our country has shit! so dont point the country and the race as well but just the persons mistake. ang galing nating manghusga, mag point whos wrong and right regardless of the nationality….hindi lahat ng kano gago. hindi rin lahat ng pinoy gago…im not saying different races and faces are impeccable. my point here is that IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE JUDGE REGARDLESS OF YOUR RACE THEN DONT DO IT TO OTHERS

    regarding the case of nicole and daniel… two of them know what happened that night. the only problem is that we dont know who to belive…we have speculations…even me….i have fishy feelings about this case. and i hope im wrong about it….im still trying to figure it out if this “fishy story” is true or not. u guys are fighting for your believes and perceptions and its okay…each and everyone of us has the right to speak whats in our minds. BUT BEING SYMPATHETIC….like you were there when it happened…that aint right! be empathetic is okay but being sympathetic is craziness. debate if u can but if ur taking it personally…thats bullshit!

  182. Pro Smith said,

    December 25, 2006 at 4:18 pm

    to popup:

    heya there… i’m not only an american but filipina as well.. my dad is an american and my mum is filipina.. i know exactly how americans helped the filipinos, i’m quite sure that they also made bad stuff to filipinos long long time ago as well, but we’re living in the present now and they’re helping our country.. it’s just really shameful that lots of filipinos in the news are saying bad things about the americans and not only that, burning their flag on air.. that’s really insulting..what would we feel if the americans do the same thing? i know that lots of us filipinos would get really mad.. americans are sending medicines and lots more to our country.. and do filipinos know how much debt philippines owe to america?

    i hope that truth will be reveal soon… merry christmas to all of you, from my family, to your family…. God Bless…

  183. caizara ellaine said,

    December 26, 2006 at 2:10 am

    …everyone can express their own opinion here so please guys di nyo kailangan magbatuhan ng kung ano~anong nakakasama sa isa’t-isa..peace out!

    ..kahit ako di ko naman kilala yang Smith at Nicole na yan pero opinion ko lang for Nicole…pwede ka namang pumunta or kahit sino sa bar or club pero nasa sayo yun kung ano ang purpose mo dun…at dapat alam mo ang mga posibilidad na mangyayari kung magpapakalasing ka…at ganung oras nandun ka pa at nagpapakalasing??? dumasayaw ng dirty dance??? wow! so ano naman ang purpose mo sa ginagawa mong yun? matanong lang kita 🙂

    ..si Smith naman, inamin naman nya na may nangyari nga talaga sa kanila ni Nicole pero siguro dahil parehas silang lasing, at parehas nilang gusto ang nangyari nung oras na yun at nagkasisihan nalang nung matauhan na sila…di natin alam talaga…pwede rin na nagalit si Nicole dahil basta nalang sya tinapon at nakakahiya nga naman kung may nakakita sa kanya sa ganung ayos nya di ba?? well nangyari na ang dapat di mangyari pero do u think fair yun para kay Smith to be jail for 40 yrs???

    …kung nakuha man ni Nicole ang gusto nyang makuha na Justice, yet it wont be enough to make her life easy…pero kung masaya na sya dun so wish ko lang na maging tahimik sana Nicole ang buhay mo…Kay Smith naman, siguro may purpose si God para sa kanya kaya nasa jail sya….we dont know what will happen next but in later years sana both of you have peace! sana lang….PRAYERS CAN HELP! 🙂

  184. proud pinay! said,

    December 27, 2006 at 12:15 am

    to pro smith:
    i agree about the the american flag. ive seen it on tv and anyone, even those people whos not part of that flag will be insulted. i got insulted, even if its not my flag or not even part of it. try to reverse the situation. the rape thing happened in america and a filipino was acquitted of raping an innocent american woman. and then got jailed sentenced for 40 years, americans burned our flag…WHAT WOULD U FEEL? TREAT PEOPLE THAT WAY U WANTED TO BE TREATED. those people who burned the american flag….YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE PHILIPPINES honestly, dude whether u like it or not accept the fact. shame on you doing things without thinking first. i dont know who are those people who burned the flag but damn, its really insulting. dont give me the kind of reason coz an american raped a filipina…SO??? did smith raped her with flag insde the van???? tsk! tsk! tsk! next time please have control and think first what to do before doing something stupid:) okay?
    its okay to fight for what you BELIEVE in….but fighting for what u JUDGE aint good at all. SCRUNITIZE!

  185. January 5, 2007 at 2:14 am

    not that i thing the flag-burning issue is relevant to the case, but to those who are angry about it, i leave this very eloquent quote.

    from The American President, spoken by Michael Douglas (as President Andrew Shepherd)

    America isn’t easy. America is advanced citizenship. You gotta want it bad, ’cause it’s gonna put up a fight. It’s gonna say “You want free speech? Let’s see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who’s standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can’t just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then, you can stand up and sing about the “land of the free”.

    so, this flag we’re talking about… are we talking about america, land of the free, or some other country?

    granting that those burning the flag are not american citizens, are we to say that the are not free to express their protests in a manner that american citizens are free to do so? is the right to free expression the right only of americans? do not those who want to protest against the acts of the US government have the same rights as well?

    freedom is either a universal concept — else, it’s all a sham, one that masks what is truly tyranny.

  186. Yanig said,

    January 6, 2007 at 5:46 pm

    when you burn the american flag in the philippines, the Flag burners or the supporters are Anti americans or Wants the americans out of the country… Do you agree? Now you burn the flag in the U.S. what does it means? Can you kick the Americans out of America? DUhhhhhhhhhhhh! Don’t play with the word freedom that much. You know and i know common sense is required in defining freedom, but if you are going to use it as an excuse then you don’t know what freedom we are fighting for. Let’s play with freedom.. I have the freedom to kill and rape, otherwise it’s a sham. LOL! Freedom has to have a limit. It’s not an absolute word. Freedom should be, Freewill, goodwill, the pursuit of happiness, yet doesn’t violate or control freewill.

  187. popup said,

    January 7, 2007 at 1:28 am

    Instead of quarelling let us pray nalang that justice will prevail. Hindi constitutional justice ha, kundi GODLY JUSTICE. Constitutional justice kasi is blind diba?

  188. TK said,

    January 8, 2007 at 3:23 am

    Flag burning has many reasons.

    I saw the american flag burned in an american TV series “LA law” (yup, I’m pretty darn old, laddy)

    I’m sure the producers were not al qaeda and had no intention of kicking out americans out of america.

  189. TK said,

    January 8, 2007 at 3:27 am

    and the point of this blog forum is that no one is free to rape anyone. If you do, you’d have to spend 40 years in jail

  190. Concerned Citizen said,

    January 8, 2007 at 12:37 pm

    Daniel came from a decent family, that nicole is f#$$@* hooker…dito sa amerika hindi namin sinusuportahan ang kalandian ng babaeng iyan…mabuti sana kung malinis ang pinagdaanan niyan but lahi siya ng mga haliparot….kung kailangan mo ng pera just let us know kapwa filipino sa amerika ang magbabayad sa iyo!!kayong mga gabriella wala na rin kayong malinis na reputasyon nabahiran na rin ng pulitika at salapi ang inyong organisasyon. Daniel Smith is not guilty!!!

  191. Concern lang sa pinagsasabi ni EMILY said,

    January 9, 2007 at 5:16 pm

    Emily

    kung totoong Filipino ka ano yang pinagsasabi mo???

    alam mo si nichole ay isang biktima… yang mga pinagsasabi mo ay kaya mo bang patunayan… andyan lahat ng evidence na pwedeng isupalpal sa mukha mo… isa ka bang Filipino… ang pinapakita mo ay pagtalikod sa pagiging isa mong filipino ano ka??? kung sasabihin isa ka sa mga taong hindi nagiisip kundi takasan ang buhay mo dito siguro kung andito ka hindi mo masasabi yang pinagsasabi mo sa 1st and and 2nd comment mo dito…. ibang klase ka…. alam mo yun…. pinapatunayan mo na hindi pag mamahal ang umiiral sayo kundi ang pera lang pera lang ang nasa puso mo… para ano syempre yumaman lang… bakit gusto mo ng pera…. isupalpal mo sa mukha mo lahat yan…. ang pinaguusapan dito ang karapatan ng mga tao… bakit ikaw kung ni rape ka ng isang kano babaliwalain mo na lang ba??? siguro na sa isip mo nun pwede ko tong gamitin para makapunta ng Amerika at pwedeng magkaroon ako ng maraming pera… yan ang nasa utak mo ngayon… eh kung si nichole nga hindi inisip yan kita mo sa likod ng pagkahirap nya ay hindi nya itinatak sa ulo nya ang pera o kung ano man na oportunidad…. tsaka tignan mo nga san sya nirape sa sasakyan… kung consensual yun sana naman dinala ni smith sa isang kwarto. hindi sa sasakyan hindi mo ba pansin yun…. ha… ano yun sabik sila…. at kung nag agree sila bakit iniwan na lang sya sa isang lugar…. pwede ba hanapin mo sarili mo…. MASYADO KA NANG NABUBULAG SA PERA AT PAG PUNTA SA AMERICA AT NASASABI MO YAN KASI NAPAKASARAP NG BUHAY MO DYAN… KASI IKAW ANG KLASENG TINATAKASAN LANG ANG DAPAT HARAPIN… PINAPAKITA MONG ISA KANG TALUNAN…. ALAM MO YUN TALUNAN, MAHINA KA… AT ANG MINSAN MO PANG SINASABI AYOKO NANG BUMALIK SA DATE KONG BUHAY KASI MAHIRAP LALO NA PAG NASA PILIPINAS AKO…. TAMA NGA SI RIZAL MAS MALANSA KA PA SA ISDA AY HINDI MASAHOL KA PA TALAGA SA MALANSANG ISDA….

    ako ay isang nursing student at sinasabi ko to dahil masyado mong minamaliit ang pinanggalingan mo… isa kang mahinang isda na malansang malansa…. ang baho mo… sa mga salita mo ipinapaamoy mo kung ano ka ngayon…. psychology at logic lang….

    nga pala sana maging masaya ka sa buhay mo dyan at hindi ka matulad sa iba…. hindi mo pa talaga kilala ang mga kano….. mamahalin ka lang nila sa umpisa pero sa huli ay ano iiwan ka lang nyan…. ang mga kano masyadong mahihilig… baka mamaya yayain ka nyan eh tumanggi ka na… kasi ang gagawin sayo gagamitin ka lang nyan maghahanap din yan ng bago… kita mo nga ilang taon pa lang sila wala pang 16 eh nakaranas na at pwede pakitanong lang ha sa magiging asawa mo naka ilan na sya bago ikaw… isipin mo yun…. ang dami nya nang nagamit…. para ka na din NABABOY…. pero kahit malaman mo yun for sure sasabihin mo ok lang yun kasi andito na ako at masarap ang buhay ko at ayoko na bumalik dun kasi mahirap ang buhay dun…. NABABABOY ka lang MILITAR din yan…. mas masahol pa yan sa normal na AMERIKANO tignan lang natin pag nadistino yan sa ibang bansa baka magulat ka eh…. may nagamit din yan na iba hindi lang ikaw…. para ka din na RAPE noh… pero kasal ka lang….. pero paki tanda lang USO DIVORSE dyan…. usong uso…. walang tumatagal….. walang wala…….

    nga pala

    niyurak mo ang pilipinas nang galing ka dito di ba niyurak mo din ang sarili mo kasi hindi mo matatanggal sa sarili mo na pinoy ka pinoy ka PINOY KA…. hindi mo matatanggal yan kahit mag papalit ka pa ng CITIZENSHIP andyan ang dugo ng PINOY SAYO…. IBANG KLASE KA TALAGA MAGSALITA PARANG WALA KANG DUGONG PINOY…. alam mo kung bumalik ka dito at may problema ka baka mamaya hindi ka pa tulungan kaya lang hindi ka kasi popular dito kaya hindi ka namin maitatakwil….. pero pinoy kami kailangan ka pa din namin ipagtanggol…. PINOY KA EH…..

    sana MAG DIVORSE DIN KAYO…..

    at sana wag nyo isipin na naiingit ako na wala akong karelasyong kano…. para makakuha ng katulad ng na sainyo mas gusto ko pang mag asawa ng pinoy kesa sa mga taong nang bababoy….

    BAHO MO TALAGA….

  192. how dare you said,

    January 9, 2007 at 5:30 pm

    to our dear government employee

    hindi nyo ba kayang tumayo sa inyong sarili paa para paunladin ang PILIPINAS?

    sa bagay hindi na talaga maalis sa atin ang pagiging masunurin ASO na nga tayo eh. masyadong masunurin

    sana naman bago kayo gumawa ng decicion na ilipat sya ay inisip nyo muna tama bang gawin yun sa nagkasala sa ating bansa?

    at babale walain nyo na lamang ang mga tao na katulad ki nichole?

    sana magising kayo sa sarili nyo

    kung tutuusin tama ang aking guro

    na madami tayong magagamit sa paligid natin ang ating bansa ay mayaman sana pero pinapamukha ninyong mahina tayo at pulube yang utang natin sa ibang bansa ay pwede pang mabayaran kung tama lang ang gagawin nyo madami tayong resources ng pwedeng gamitin pang benta at gawin pang bayad sa utang….

    sana wag nyo isipin na mahirap tayo….

    at sana wag kayo umasa sa ibang bansa…

    ginagawa lang tayong alila nyan

    at kung sasabihin sila pa ang may kailangan satin halos lahat ng trabahador natin ay nasakanila na ang tanong pa nga duon ay parehas lang ba ang turing nila satin?

    sana lang magising kayo

    wag kayo umasa sa suporta nila

    ipakita nyo na pwede tayong tumayo sa sarili natin mga paa

    at hindi tayo sunod sunuran sa kanila

    kaya ko lamang po naisulat ang ganito dahil sa paglipat ng kostodiya ni smith sa embahada ng amerika dahil lang sa pananakot ng amerika na ititigil ang pagsuporta nila sa atin

    magising kayo sa katotohanan

    maging INDEPENDENT sana tayo

    ang TAYONG hindi nag papauto sa iba

    sayang lang ang Pilipinas piangtanggol pa man din tayo ng ating mga bayani sa kanila tapos ang gagawin lamang natin ay magpapaalila sa kanila

    parang binalik nyo din ang panahon ng pananakop ng Amerikano sa mga Pilipino

  193. TK said,

    January 10, 2007 at 3:42 am

    If the definition of “kalandian” is to go bar hopping, drinking, and flirting with men, then most females in America above the age of 18 are, well, malandi.

    Please, Ma’am, try to watch programs in your tivo.

    and try to talk to your female neighbors about what happened to Nicole and they will surely see themselves in her.

    Just a word of caution: don’t tell them you sympathize with convicted rapist dan smith. Or else your good neighbors will treat you like a pariah… Unless ofcourse you live in a redneck’s trailer home- then it’s okay to tell them about your prejudice over a bottle of moonshine.

    But if you live anywhere else, just to let you know, American women think of rapists as the lowest form of scums.

    I don’t think any American woman, who falls under your definition of that derogatory tagalog term (malandi), deserves to be raped by convicted rapist dan smith.

  194. January 10, 2007 at 9:49 am

    concerned citizen,

    “that nicole is f#$$@* hooker”

    assuming what you said is true (which upon review of reports yields it to be a f#$$@* lie — to use your language), remember that philippine and american jurisprudence has it that being a sex worker does not in any way mitigate one’s sexual assault on her.

    “mabuti sana kung malinis ang pinagdaanan niyan but lahi siya ng mga haliparot”

    neither is the victim’s morality a valid issue if one is sexually assaulted, if you follow philippine and american jurisprudence. if you want it to be a valid issue, use the jurisprudence of say, taliban afghanistan.

  195. Emily said,

    January 10, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    Isa kang nursing Student!? Ako hindi ako nakatuntong sa college, pero sa ating dalawa , mas mabaho kang magsalita. Alam kong may mga nasabi akong hindi maganda tungkol kay Nicole at tungkol sa kung paano tumakbo ang buhay sa loob ng isang bar. Magpasalamat ka, at hindi mo naranasan ang magtrabaho doon. Dahil, kung maranasan mo, masahol pa sa mga sinabi ko dito ang mga nangyayari doon. At hindi ko, minamaliit ang mga bargirl, gusto ko lang buksan ang kaisipan ng mga taong walang alam sa takbo ng buhay doon. Bakit ko naman aaminin na isa akong bargirl kung mamaliitin ko sila. Ikaw ang mag-isip ng mga sinasabi mo. Ang sakit mo magsalita, hindi mo kilala ang pagkatao ko, at hindi ko na kailangan ikwento sa iyo, kung bakit kailangan ko at napadpad ako sa ganoong trabaho. Maraming pangyayari sa buhay ng isang bargirl ang nagtulak sa kanya na tanggapin ang trabahong iyon. Kahit hindi nya kagustuhan. At masaklap na karanasan ang naranasan ko sa buhay ng dahil sa isang matandang lalaki ( 46 years old na sya,Pilipino) na nagsamantala sa kainosentihan ko noon bago ako mapadpad sa trabahong iyon, Ayaw ko na sanang maalala, pero, masakit ang mga paratang mo sa akin. 17 lang ako noon, walang akong naging boyfriend, takot ako sa mga nanliligaw sa akin, choir ako sa KAPILYA. as in, inosente talaga ako. First job ko yon, ang amo ko, marami palang asawa at magaling magpaikot ng isang babae. Pag naaalala ko iyon, naiisip ko, na pinagsamantalahan nya ang kabataan ko at kainosentihan ko. Nabuntis nya ako, dahil pinagsamantalahan nya ako. Namatay yung lalaki pagkapanganak ko. Marami akong pinasukang trabaho para buhayin ang anak ko.
    At ng mapadpad ako sa Subic, doon ko nakilala ang US Navy na nagpabago ng buhay ko. Ramdam ko, na isa syang mabuting tao. Hindi ako nagtagal sa bar at inalis nya ako trabahong iyon. Sya ang nagbigay ng pag-asa sa akin. Wala pa syang karanasan sa isang babae, kung ayaw mong maniwala, hindi kita pipilitin. Hindi mo lang alam kung gaano ko ipinagmamalaki ang pagiging isang Pilipino. Hindi ko pinangarap o akalain na makarating man lang dito sa US. Wala talaga sa isip ko na makakarating ako dito. Hindi ko tinatakasan ang pagiging Pilipino ko. Siguro iyon ang dahilan kung bakit hanggang ngayon, hirap ako mag-adjust dito. Pati, pananalita ko, malalim na tagalog. Kaya wag mo akong husgahan. Kahit nga si Rizal na nagsabi ng “Ang hindi magmahal sa sariling wika, ay higit pa ang amoy sa mabahong isda” ay nakarating din sa ibang bansa. Hindi lang talaga natin alam ang mangyayari sa buhay natin at kung saan tayo mapupunta. Kahit siguro Pilipino ang nakilala ko sa bar na iyon at nag-alis sa akin doon, basta, alam kong tanggap nya at mahal ako at mahal ko rin sya ay tatanggapin ko. Nagkataon na amerikano sya at inalok nya ako ng kasal, yun naman ang importante sa akin, siguro kahit na sinong babae, gustong makasal, kahit ikaw.
    Ang tungkol naman kay Nicole, hindi kasi sya kapani-paniwala. Hindi sya inosente at bata ng mangyari iyon sa kanya na tulad ko noon nang mangyari sa akin iyon. Mas maniniwala pa ako kung ang narape ay yung kapatid nya na mas bata sa kanya na kasama nya noon sa bar. Si Nicole kasi, marami nang karanasan. Galing na sya sa Japan at Korea, bilang isang entertainer. At may boyfriend syang US Marine. Kaya paano mo paniniwalaan ang isang babaeng marami nang karanasan bilang isang entertainer at bargirl sa ibang bansa. Isa lang ang ibig sabihin noon, marunong na syang magpaikot. Nagsasabi lang ako ng kung ano ang katotohanan, at gusto ko lang imulat ang mata ng isang tulad mo, masasabi kong, isa ka pa ring inosente sa takbo at kulay ng buhay. Marami ka pang dapat malaman sa paligid mo. Maraming karahasan ang nangyayari sa mundo, at imulat mo ang mga mata mo, hindi lang jan sa paligid mo.
    Bata ka pa talaga, wag kang mag-alala, hindi ko iniisip na naiinggit ka sa mga tulad naming may asawa at boyfriend na Amerikano. Ito ang huli ko masasabi sa iyo, Kahit anong lahi, may masama at mabuti, Pilipino man o Amerikano, At kahit anong lahi sa mundo, ipagdasal mo na lang na makatagpo ka ng mabuti. At kung hindi man, gawin mo itong isang inspirasyon at aral para makita mo ang totoong kulay ng mundo. Sana maintindihan mo.
    Ako ay isang Pilipino na napadpad sa ibang bansa. Mahal ko ang Pilipinas, at hindi ko tinatalikuran ang pagiging isang Pilipino. Kaya, Bantayan mo ang mga sinasabi mo. Siguro, ikaw si Nicole, galit ka sa mga sinabi ko sa kanya, kasi alam mong totoo, di ba! Masakit talaga ang Katotohanan, kaya kung ako sa iyo, magpakatotoo ka Nicole! Ikaw ang Mabaho!

  196. henry said,

    January 11, 2007 at 2:50 am

    How dare you said and TK:

    SHUT UP you COMMUNIST-MILITANTS!!!!
    kayong mga anti-US, kung ayaw nyo sa US edi manirahan
    kayo sa NORTH KOREA!!! ang galing nyo mamintas sa US eh sa mga kapatid ninyong NPA na number one human rights violators hindi man lang ninyo kayang punahin. IPOKRITO’ IPOKRITA!

  197. TK said,

    January 11, 2007 at 3:21 am

    “Taliban.” hahaha! you beat me to it P’re.

    Darn!

  198. TK said,

    January 12, 2007 at 5:13 am

    “Taliban.” hahaha! you beat me to it P’re.

    Darn!

    (that post was for Jester-in-exile. not for henry.)

    Dear Henry, good afternoon to you too, sir. I’m not a communist. And that’s an understatement.

  199. January 12, 2007 at 5:35 am

    heh heh TK.

    actually, if you read through the comments log, a lot of them espouse the same rape jurisprudence as the taliban or islamic fundamentalists, not philippine nor american jurisprudence. all those about questioning nicole’s morality, or presence at a bar, or intoxication, or accusing her of being a sex worker — you’ll find all those mitigating (even extenuating!) circumstances for rape in such places. thank god for the legal writings of justices davide, ynares-santiago, et al, else we’d be in the same boat.

  200. shandy said,

    January 12, 2007 at 7:10 pm

    pinay ako na may asawang kano sa club kami nagkakilala dito sa u.s. at since 1992 nagdidisco na ako at maraming abusadong lalake sa club, palaban lang ako at laging maykasamang friends.

    noong narinig ko ang subicrapecase sabi ko sana ipakita ng pinas na may law ang pinas at huwag matakot kay sam.

    at sa lahat ng blog na nabasa ko ang mga pro convicted rapist FAN CLUB ay lahat inaaway para silang mga palengkera!

  201. tabaz said,

    January 13, 2007 at 5:03 pm

    an dami n’yo namang nalalaman…!!!
    bakit andun ba kayo nung nangyari yun???
    …kung wala, wag n kayong maingay… ang ingay ingay na ng mundo!!!

    .. tungkol nmn dito sa mga kumunistang ‘to na ginagamit ang issue para makapag ingay, mag isip isip muna kayo…
    anu ba talaga ang pinaglalaban n’yo??!!!

    >>>>ipag dasal n’yo nalang na sana ampunin nalang ng america ang pilipinas… para kahit papano magkaroon ngipin ang batas!!!
    BUNGAL ANG BATAS SA PILIPINAS E…. hehehh!!!

  202. Angel said,

    January 15, 2007 at 6:08 pm

    buti pa nga baka magimprove naman ang pinas at baka $$ narin ang pera

  203. Moe Dick said,

    January 16, 2007 at 7:03 am

    People get a life..so what, who cares, there are more important issues in the world today. This Nicole thing is nothing…

  204. angelica santos said,

    February 7, 2007 at 2:54 am

    nicole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ngayun na hustisyahan na ng kso mo ay naging masaya ka ba?????
    parng wala namang nangyari eh!!!

  205. March 16, 2007 at 9:31 am

    […] go back to my bloghopping, I came across the blogsite of the Subic Rape Case. There, several people voiced out through their comments how they feel about Nicole. Several are […]

  206. hannah said,

    June 24, 2007 at 3:07 pm

    gusto ko lang po magtanong, isa pa po akong nursing student graduating na po isang simpleng mamayan.. ganito po meron po akong pinsan na 15 years old, siya po ay nabuntis ng isang 20 years old na lalaki. ngayon po after 4 months pa po ito nalaman ng magulang niya. ayon po sa pinsa ko siya daw po ay pinilit at tinutukan ng baril. ngayon po idinemanda ng magulang ang lalaki pero hindi na po tinanggap ng fiscal o sa korte dahil 4 months na daw po ang nakaklipas. ito po ba ay isang statutory rape na maituturing?? bkit po pinakawalan pa ng fiscal ang lalaki? salamat po.

  207. angeline santos said,

    August 27, 2007 at 12:30 pm

    ang galing mo mnicole nalampasan mo lhat ng pagsubok sa buhay mo

  208. letch said,

    May 31, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    bute nalmpasan mu yun at nakuha mu pang balikan ang lugar na yun ahh lakas ng loob mo nicole..

  209. sheena said,

    July 14, 2008 at 4:20 am

    ok lang yan nicole basta lakasan mo lang ang loob mo…

  210. samextreme said,

    March 18, 2009 at 5:01 am

    emily, kung sa kapatid mong babae nangyari ito, ano gagawin mo? pgbibinntangan mo rin ba sya na ginusto nya yun? alam mo di mo kilala si nicole, hndi naman cguro kau close. never ever judge the book by its cover. maybe you must learn how to read the bible. may matutunan ka dun. saka pano mo nasabi na di magagawa ng kano un? alam mo ipagpasalamat mo na lng na nung tym na pumunta ka subic, walang masamang nangyari sau gaya ng nangyari kay nicole.

  211. Honeyz said,

    March 21, 2009 at 1:58 am

    To Emily and sa lahat, I’m really wondering kung naging kapatid niyo si nicole,ganun rin kaya ang gagawin niyo.Huhusgahan niyo rin kaya siya.? Ano naman ang masasabi ninyo sa evidence? Planted ba yun for you to say na She was not really raped! and Emily some American are perverts!

  212. March 24, 2009 at 6:46 am

    Mahirap talaga kalimutan ang mga bagay na mahirap kalimutan lalo na at ito pa ang nakasira sabuhay mo.. Nicole, i advised you to have faith in GOD.. manalangin ka na sana mabigyan ka ng mas magandang hustisya laban sa kaso mo…

  213. shobe said,

    July 14, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Hmm.. well, late man to, gusto ko lng mag comment,, this thread have gone a long way.. and ang ending ng issue? wala ding nagyari sa kaso. yeah, Smith was guilty as the court’s verdict..pero what a twist of the story, ‘Nicole recants’ ang sumunod na issue.. Oh my.. Pera- Pera lang pla talaga… Ngaun, im so positive na why I just don’t have a good feeling about Nicole.
    =)


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