Like thieves in the night

(N.B. This is Teresita Ang See’s Beats and Bytes column in Tulay, a Chinese-Filipino digest published by Kaisa Para sa Kaunlaran. The author is an awardee of The Outstanding Women in the Nation’s Service [TOWNS], one of the many organizations helping Nicole.)

Faust sold his soul to the devil for short-term personal gain. The Philippine government seems close to doing the same.By agreeing to give the United States custody of convicted rapist, Lance Cpl. Daniel Smith, the Philippine government has practically sold out the country’s sovereignty. The convoluted logic given by Malacañang spokespeople: The move is better than a pardon for Smith, and it will ensure continuation of the joint military exercises. Excuse me? These statements raise two sore points.

Firstly, pardon is not, and should never be, an option. It should not even have been mentioned. A pardon would make a mockery of our judicial system. Pursuit of justice and due process become a cruel joke when political interests can easily subvert results unsatisfactory to those with influence.

The second point indicates that foreign military interests are so important that it is OK to bump national sovereignty and justice onto the back seat. Karangalan and katarungan, twin ideals for the nation, have just been decimated.

Sad.

The Chinese have a saying “Qiong guo wu wai jiao (A poor country does not have foreign relations).” A poor country cannot demand equality and parity in foreign relations. Our government has just proved how true this is. Under duress from the U.S. Embassy, we sold out.

Like thieves in the night, police operatives sent by the Department of Interior and Local Government spirited Smith out of the Makati City Jail into the waiting arms of the embassy staff last Dec. 29. This covert act was done by virtue of a clandestine executive agreement between U.S. Ambassador Christine Kenney and Foreign Affairs Secretary Alberto Romulo. It was done at the very last hour of the last working day of 2006, an assurance that the camp of rape victim “Nicole” could do nothing to prevent it.

Malacañang’s move skirted Makati Judge Benjamin Pozon’s order that Smith’s custody should be with the Philippines. It likewise contravened the Court of Appeals’ decision that while the case was under review, Pozon’s decision should be respected. Finally, the appellate court upheld the conviction but rendered the custody issue moot and academic because Smith had already been transferred to the U.S. Embassy.

Instead of caving in, the Philippine government ought to have thanked the Americans when they decided at first to cancel the scheduled Balikatan exercises. It ought to have seized the opportunity and cited Nicole’s experience to tell the U.S. government to exercise prudence and keep their military men out of any country, not just the Philippines, until it can assure other countries that their citizens will not be abused, raped, massacred and degraded by rampaging soldiers.

But no, Malacañang buckled under the weight of threats coming from Uncle Sam. And bully the Americans can. Initially, Ambassador Kenney warned that U.S. mercy medical and relief missions to typhoon victims might suffer if the Philippines does not hand Smith over. Stunned by the backlash of such blatant bullying—that withholding aid would be much like snatching candy away from a crying child—she later backed down.

So it was onto the next threat: To cancel the military exercises. This time, the strategy worked. The Philippine government’s response sold out our dignity as a nation. It has allowed a foreign government to interfere in our internal affairs and subvert our own judicial system.

I do not subscribe to the saying that a poor country does not have foreign relations. We can still hold our heads up high in the community of nations if we keep our dignity and refuse to bow to a foreign power.

I cannot believe that our government officials would ever buy the line that our relations with the U.S. would suffer from the issue over custody of a mere corporal. But it did and I believe that what the President and her officials fear is the loss of U.S. support which she needs for her political survival. In much the same way that the U.S. continued to prop up the Marcos dictatorial regime to the very end, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo and her minions seriously feel that they cannot sacrifice that political backing over the custody of a lowly U.S. marine. But clearly, they too miscalculated the consequence of that move.

The Palace rah-rah boys are one in saying that the President had nothing to do with the decision. But they also admit that Cabinet cluster on national security (Cluster E) made the decision. Palace officials are adding insult to injury by trying to pull our collective leg. How can a Cabinet cluster’s decision be concealed from the President?

Come on!

They could not even get their acts and pronouncements together. National Security Adviser Norberto Gonzales had already announced that the custody issue would not affect RP-U.S. relations. Then Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita and spokesman Ignacio Bunye justified the custody change because, they said, the government does not want such issues to affect relations.

Even more tragic are the female bystanders swooning over Smith and professing their belief in his innocence. It is sickening that these women can ignore the suffering and abuse of one of their own just because the criminal is a young, handsome, white American boy. I wonder what they would feel if the African-American marine were convicted instead.

Before we at TOWNS (The Outstanding Women in the Nation’s Service) decided to help Nicole, we did our own fact finding and talked to Nicole and her family and some witnesses. We are fully convinced that Nicole was raped and that all she wanted was justice, not to get money out of the Americans. But many people, including Fr. James Reuter, did not bother to know the case and the family, and even dared pass uninformed judgment on Nicole.

If anything good at all is to come out of this tragedy, it is the review of the Visiting Forces Agreement. Filipino negotiators must clarify all the gray areas that have worked against Filipino interests.

We have to thank Nicole’s courage in facing the yearlong trial and her persistence despite her lack of resources and the mental duress in every trial.

We thank also the other women who stood steadfastly by her, especially her counsel Evalyn Ursua who bore the heaviest burden in Nicole’s defense.

No matter the final outcome of this case, we have won our victory in this battle. Like Faust’s story, it is human persistence and caring that win the day

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80 Comments

  1. Justice Seeker said,

    January 11, 2007 at 4:13 pm

    “Before we at TOWNS (The Outstanding Women in the Nation’s Service) decided to help Nicole, we did our own fact finding and talked to Nicole and her family and some witnesses. We are fully convinced that Nicole was raped and that all she wanted was justice, not to get money out of the Americans. But many people, including Fr. James Reuter, did not bother to know the case and the family, and even dared pass uninformed judgment on Nicole.”

    Before Fr. James decided to defend Daniel Smith, he did his own fact finding and talked to Dan and the other 3 marines who were witnesses. He is fully convinced that Nicole was NOT raped and that all Dan wanted was to clear his good name. He was never open to any settlement for a get out of jail free card because he truly believed that the truth would set him free. But many people, including TOWNS (The Outstanding Women in the Nation’s Service), did not bother to know the case and the marines, and even dared pass uninformed judgment on Daniel.

  2. tina said,

    January 11, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    Can you post Admiral’s Fallon’s reason for attempting to Withdraw U.S. troops from Philippines. Or post the reason why the U.S. was suspending the Balikatan.

    Let me Announce I am about to take smith out of Makati City Jail so the Media, protestors, Anti-Americans, Women’s Rights Groups, can be there and I am so for sure, violence will not happen.

    “Firstly, pardon is not, and should never be, an option. It should not even have been mentioned. A pardon would make a mockery of our judicial system. Pursuit of justice and due process become a cruel joke when political interests can easily subvert results unsatisfactory to those with influence”
    -Where are you going for on this one? Judge Pozon already did that the time he made his decision. Judge’s Decision made a mockery of the Judicial System. Mockery is what people think… Have you been reading the comments?

    The Chinese have a saying “Qiong guo wu wai jiao (A poor country does not have foreign relations).” A poor country cannot demand equality and parity in foreign relations. Our government has just proved how true this is. Under duress from the U.S. Embassy, we sold out.
    This is your Opinion… Keep it that way. There is a difference between you are right and it is right. Last time I check the Philippines, Its Philippines, Not CHINA. The way I am looking at this, the U.S. is having problem demanding equality from the Philippines. Having problem agreeing with an Agreement call Visiting Forces AGREEMENT. Oh oh.. How about a FAIR TRIAL?

    I would like to go on and rebutt all this article says, but I can go forever and embarrassed the writer. It is very easy to rebutt and article if the content is very very bias.

    You actually think Ursula, is very into Nicole? No she is into the business. Come one, you talk about the U.S. having interest. Can you imagine how many potential Banking clients will be asking for Ursula? If Ursula is really Fair, then she should have been attentive on Pozon’s comment “I have a daugther too”.

    How many Filipinos are benifiting from the U.S. Philippine Relation. Can Philippines stand on it’s own right now? It shows how much you really care about many Filipinos. For those of you who can afford to go to an internet and read and write and have a house, eat three times a day, steady job, but bias think the philippine can stand on it’s own? HECK NO! You need foreign relation. How much stable the Pinas economy was when the Base was there? Tourism for example. Trades… If you don’t have foreign relation, how are you going to sustain Philippines. No trades, no tourism. All about freaking complain about this country and that country but NO SOLUTION has been provided from all this complainers. You claim you care about the Filipino People but in all reality, you care about what you think, you care about people aweing your bias articles, so later on you can sell more of your interest and use it for your advantage. HYPOCRACY.
    ORM… Operational Risk Management my Brother’s and Sisters. Weight the Game and the Risk. What are the Risk when you play this Game and if you decide not to play the Game you better come up with a SOLUTION, not a B1tc* or a complain.
    Now if you do care about the Filipino, you want to protect the Filipino People from those who are out there to get us, who have actually put a death warrant on us. If smith is guilty, then he is one person who made a mistake and he deserve to suffer. But he didn’t wake up in the Morning saying, I will rape someone today. Think about the others, protect your people. The americans are helping us on that, and Yes the American have their interest. And now before anybody starts B1tc*n and whinning, what is that interest. How are the Americans going to benifit from that, and how are the Filipinos going to benifit from that interest.

    Deny it or not, the goverment is ran by politics, otherwise find something that you think who rans the Gov’t.

  3. TK said,

    January 12, 2007 at 3:09 am

    Counsel Ursua, I have one humble request:

    Please don’t run in the elections.

  4. TK said,

    January 12, 2007 at 3:40 am

    If you do run for public office, it’s like Selling out to the devil– Like faust.

  5. Maya said,

    January 12, 2007 at 7:25 am

    These would have all been avoided if the Philippines were not so reliant on the US for it’s national and admit it…financial security. Stand on your own two feet, Philippines…then you can talk about pride(karangalan). As far as katarungan…it wouldn’t be so suspicious if the whole thing wasn’t so biased against the american. He was made as a scapegoat so leftist groups can have their field day. If Nicole was sober and did not exhibit any questionable behaviour prior to the alleged rape…I’m sure she’ll have more support from the “common tao”…you know, people that are not members of any groups and have no agenda. Maybe you can ask the Chinese government for military and financial support instead… I’m sure they’ll provide you with the kind of pride, justice and respect you’re clamoring for.

  6. Annie said,

    January 12, 2007 at 6:08 pm

    this is a good one, t.y.

  7. LL said,

    January 13, 2007 at 12:48 pm

    TK,
    she has no intentions. i can assure you that.

    (you know who i am.)

  8. Melba said,

    January 13, 2007 at 1:06 pm

    One of the worst comments I read in this site is asking Atty. Ursua not to run for an elective post. This one is both ludicrous and sad. Whatever gave TK the idea? or Whatever brought TK such pessimism that all person who do very well in helping others are only out to amass electoral votes for an earn a seat in politics.

    For some of us who witnessed how our relatives, friends, colleagues, acquaintances were steadfastly defended even Pro Bono by Atty. Evalyn Ursua over the years know how hard she works if only to save one abused soul and promote equality and empowerment of women. TK, remember that while the other private prosecutors turned their backs on “Nicole” when the going got tougher, Atty. Ursua remained and fought the hardest and won. When almost everybody believed it was a losing battle, Atty. Ursua defied the Act of Surrender by the forces who were supposed to have defended and protected Nicole from such a barbaric act.

    And you know what, maybe to most of the lawyers’ surprise Atty. Ursua was right in believing that she will win the case. She did her work as far as she was allowed to and Nicole won. Undoubtedly, had she been given the chance to cross examine on the other suspects who were with Smith that time, they too would have spent their Christmas in the compound of the Makati City Jail.

    Taking a cue from Teresita Ang See’s article, I remember when Sec. Norberto Gonzales upon his visit in our university, answered without batting an eyelash that “Nicole” had no chance of winning or even fighting for her case because of the VFA. Those words coming from the country’s National Security Adviser…an irony isn’t it. He should have have been dismissed from his post a long time, for he knows not how to provide security to the country and best of all the hapless countrymen. What advice can he give anyway?

    Well, GMA called on understanding that giving the US custody of Smith was necessary for the greater good. This utilitarian view was proven wrong when 3 areas in Mindanao was not saved by the US forces from the series of bombings in Gensan, Kidapawan and Cotabato. And where are these US forces detailed? Here in Mindanao. The belief that the US forces can save the coutrymen from threats of terrorism has once again been proven to be a Myth after all.

    What is real is that a young Filipina woman was raped by L/Cpl. Daniel Smith. And to make more emphasis, I can’t remember Fr. Reuter ever providing a clearer proof that these men did not rape “Nicole”. I can only remember that he believe them. So between him and the facts gathered by Atty. Ursua and those who work with her, I Atty. Evalyn Ursua is much, much more credible.

    So if TK’s assumption is right and Atty. Ursua runs for office, I’ll vote for her. Why not? At least for many instances she never cowered in fighting for her countrymen unlike the one holding the Presidency and her luminaries.

    But of course, I prefer that she remains a lawyer fighting for women and other causes. There are already more than enough lawmakers and politicians lording over this hapless country.

    She is truly a big loss to this country if she ceases to be one and at the rate “Nicole’s” case is going beside Nicole and her family she is hit the hardest.

  9. Yanig said,

    January 13, 2007 at 7:10 pm

    When you are arguing with someone specially a filipino, and baluktot ang english, If they are loosing the argument the first thing they are going to say,” how can you argue with your baluktot english”. They say that because there is no rebuttal and they have to find something to get that person back and to throw off the topic. The Article on top is well said, but very very very very very very very BIAS. Good Verbage but what is it really saying? Read Between the lines, people.

    how many time has it been said, Agreement is an Agreement. What is sovereignty if you have no word honor? What is justice when you make Bias comments? If the writter of this article can convince you then maybe she can convince you that RAPING someone is good.

    You want to talk about EQUALITY? What is the U.S. getting from helping out Philippines? Did the Philippines sent out Relief funds for the Hurricane Katrina Victims? When was the last time the Philippines sent out relief for any of the U.S.’s natural disasters? To some Filipinos, stop this “Poor-man Complex” thingy. (Oh I am a poor country so Apihan lang kami) or (Porke mayaman lang kayo, ang baba na ng tingin nyo sa amin), OMG! Get off that crap!

    “Even more tragic are the female bystanders swooning over Smith and professing their belief in his innocence. It is sickening that these women can ignore the suffering and abuse of one of their own just because the criminal is a young, handsome, white American boy. I wonder what they would feel if the African-American marine were convicted instead”
    Nicole is suffering not because Pro Smiths wants to. Nicole is suffering because she wants to suffer. LIFE IS A CHOICE.
    Maybe it is not because Smith is a young, handsome, white american Boy… Maybe because they have problems believing Nicole or… Maybe Nicole is labeled as a slut or a prostitute.
    Did you go around and ask those “Female Bystandards” why they are swooning over smith and you came out with that CONCLUSION?
    So you wonder what would have been the outcome if Smith was an African American?
    So you are insinuating Americans are racist? Watch what you say… you need a good for this one.

    People. Not as an insult but you have to read between the lines on the article on top. It is a very bias article. So many holes like Nicole’s testimonies and her case evidences.

  10. wondering said,

    January 14, 2007 at 1:38 am

    Ursua clearly lied . At the onset of the case she stated Nicole does not like it when she sees a woman sitting on a mans lap. Ursua attacked the VFA before the case was even finished. That was on her agenda from the beginning. To gain fame and in the long run lots of money. In my own opinion she could care less about Nicole. She is a private lawyer, the VFA is not her concern. It is not her concern where smith is confined. She did her job, now it’s time to leave Smith and Nicole alone.

  11. flef said,

    January 14, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    to tina: it’s Atty. URSUA. can’t you read? do yourself a favor and acquire a functioning brain before you refute other people’s well-reasoned opinions.

    to TK: worry not for she has no plans of running for office, for chrissakes.

    to maya: more support from the common tao? well, this is really the more tragic aspect of the case. the fact that the “common tao” sees Nicole as a woman with loose morals and that “she had it coming” because of her “inappropriate” behavior is just… wrong. this reflects the insensibility of people these days, which is really surprising considering that we’re living in the 21st century already – a time when people are supposedly enlightened enough to break stereotypes. and i’ll say it again: RAPE is RAPE, no matter who the victim or accused is, no matter what they did, said or hinted at. why? because a NO is a NO. simple as simple can get.

    and btw, Smith was not used as a scapegoat by leftists. they have been fighting this battle long before Smith was even born. it is a battle for principle, rather than for media coverage. that is just a snide remark that is completely baseless. ask yourself first why the american is seen as the antagonist in the first place.

  12. flef said,

    January 15, 2007 at 1:46 pm

    to wondering: not only is Atty. Ursua a private lawyer; she is, more than anything else, a Filipino, who does not want to see her country being trampled on by imperialists. the VFA was incessantly attacked precisely because it governed the entire case – the defense, the us embassy and its cohorts stubbornly held on to its provisions. the “fame and money” you are talking about are.. well, inconsequential at the most. where did you base your opinion that she couldn’t care less about Nicole? do you personally know her? let me remind you that the VFA is a concern for every Filipino. we owe it to our country to stand up for its integrity. the very Sovereignty of our nation is at stake in this case.

  13. TK said,

    January 16, 2007 at 12:06 am

    Welcome back to LL and Flef. Keep your humor intact and let your adversaries lose theirs… and their sanity too.

    TK here. Signing out of this forum.

    GOD BLESS THE GALLANT WOMEN OF TFSR!

    GOD BLESS THE AMERICAN FEMINIST MOVEMENT, Mother to us all (Actually, i’m a prodigal son since I’m an ANTI-ABORTION feminist)

    give my regards to the good counsel. pehingi din ng autograph.

  14. January 16, 2007 at 3:11 am

    “What is the U.S. getting from helping out Philippines?”

    they get to project political, economic, and military power in southeast asia (japan nor korea not being southeast asia — check your geography)… the rest is detail. check out the white papers of the state department and the defense department — i’ll stand by that (akala ninyo they’re here because of the goodness of the hearts of those in the pentagon, on capitol hill, or 1600 pennsylvania avenue?)

    “If Nicole was sober and did not exhibit any questionable behaviour prior to the alleged rape…I’m sure she’ll have more support from the “common tao”…you know, people that are not members of any groups and have no agenda.”

    true. it’s all her fault that she got raped — talibans in the philippines, unite and stone nicole!

    (sorry, flef — i get tired of pointing out what learned justices around the world — except taliban afghanistan and extremist fundamentalists — have said about the victim’s morality, life experience, et cetera NEVER being mitigating/ extenuating circumstances for rape.)

    “how many time has it been said, Agreement is an Agreement.”

    i suggest you read the definition of “executive agreement” and “treaty.” attempt to differentiate, if capable.

    “He was made as a scapegoat so leftist groups can have their field day.”

    imagine that. leftists were given a field day — considering that they and journalists are being murdered left and right (pardon the pun).

  15. tina said,

    January 16, 2007 at 5:37 am

    Flef.. I guess Yanig is right. You looked at the spelling rather than what was said. Where is your arguement? And you my friend must read between the lines. How did you Know I was talking about URSUA? You had to correct me so you can feel righteous? Well now you feel righteous? Good.. Now is Nicole Righteous? Didn’t change anything, did it?
    YES! NO is NO! Can Nicole prove she said “NO”? Now can smith Prove she said ”YES”? Rape is Rape when IT IS RAPE. What if Nicole is Just Stipulating? What if smith is Stipulating?
    Did Ursua really win the Case?

  16. maya said,

    January 16, 2007 at 7:43 am

    to flef: Just because the “common tao” is not “enlightened” enough to buy into that garbage the Womens libbers shoved down our throats for decades now where a woman can make irresponsible decisions, place herself in negative situations and complain that she has been victimized and none of it was her fault because she said “NO” even if all along she meant YES, YES, YES !!! makes them insensible (and by that I hope you meant lack of compassion and not stupidity) and totally not the kind of people living in the 21st century is a silly remark. Organizations like that ruined the 21st century !! I praise the ordinary, unsophisticated person for judging it for what it is.

    You said,” Smith was not used as a scapegoat by leftists. they have been fighting this battle long before Smith was even born.” That may be true but you guys sure came out in droves for this one. When you said BATTLE…was that against RAPISTS … because I didn’t see you guys rallying with other rape cases (of course I could be wrong. I have been out of the country for a long time.) If you mean battle against America…for principle…America…the antagonist. Let me analyze that for a minute…why is my country considered antagonistic by communists ??? Because my country is there training your military to fight rebels that terrorize the people of a democratic country( no matter how corrupt the govt.) Because my country is there to lend a helping hand during calamities ( which you guys have so many of) just minutes after you burned our flag. Because my countrymen, the missionaries, inspite of the threats of kidnapping and decapitation are there to spread peace and hope. I wonder who are the antagonitists here…us or the communists who for decades now have been trying to stop us from doing all the “BAD” deeds I previously mentioned. Principle…what principle exactly ??? I’m kind vague on that one…

  17. stoxbnx3 said,

    January 16, 2007 at 1:12 pm

    maya:

    “I didn’t see you guys rallying with other rape cases (of course I could be wrong. I have been out of the country for a long time.)”

    these women’s groups had been there for several rape victims long before this issue erupted. nicole’s case was simply the most prominent. please read our other entries. we’ve answered that allegation again and again.

    “why is my country considered antagonistic by communists ??? Because my country is there training your military to fight rebels that terrorize the people of a democratic country( no matter how corrupt the govt.)”

    try stepping out of that perspective for a change. you’ll realize why a lot of people in the world hate you.

  18. dude labo said,

    January 16, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    Ms. See is right, I agree that the government of GMA did hijack Smith, this could have been avoided had they filed a habeas corpus petition with the SC as what Mr. Saguisag stated in his coloumn.

    Atty. Ursua is one good lawyer and I salute her. She was able to get a conviction based on circumstancial evidence, such a feat in a corrupt system is truly amazing.

    Mr. Pozon handed the verdict and one of the points he raised was he did not see any reason why he should not believe Nicole. I am hoping that I can have a better grasp of what just happened and if anyone here would be kind enough to enlighten me with some issues I have:

    1. If Nicole was telling the truth then everyone else is lying? Upon reading the proceedings posted in this site I see consistency in their statements corroborating each one. The incident in the courthouse wherein Nicole claimed she was tripped by Smith and in her outburst scandalously hit the accused with her handbag. Ms. Ursua’s legal aide was with her and she stated that Nicole was not tripped it is just that the space is too tight, was Ms. Ursua’s legal aide lying? If the legal aide is telling the truth then Nicole is definitely lying. If she can lie about this inside the courtroom in front of many witnesses what is the probability she also lied regarding her accusation of rape?

    2. Why was the Filipino driver not asked to testify in the court proceedings? He could have shed light into the case and with the threat of perjury charges against him he would have testified based on what he saw and heard. Which of the statements are true? The one he gave to the investigatong that it was gang rape or the ones he gave to the marines that it was consensual? The problem with the Philippine justice system is it is always the poor small people that are easily harrassed and intimidated and the bad habit of inept investigators of charging everyone wholesale including the witness.

    Dude Labo

  19. Maya said,

    January 16, 2007 at 7:09 pm

    I admitted that I didn’t know if these women’s groups supported other cases, thus, the close captioning. I also wish that same groups would further women’s causes by educating them that true empowerment is not the ability to garner support after placing onself in a compromising situation by bad decisions one made but by avoiding said situations in the first place through self respect and common sense. “Nicole” is so not the kind of woman you want to use as your “symbol”. Doing so is just irresponsible. It still was not rape and Daniel Smith is still being used as a political pawn.

    “try stepping out of perspective for a change. You’ll realize why a lot of people in the world hate you.” Man, that line has been used over and over again by anti americans. Okay, I’ll bite and and try to see it from the view point of a communist. Why is it that I hate a country that is providing military support to another country whose people are being terrorized by rebels(that I assume I support?). As a communist, is it then my goal to destabilize an already fragile nation in the name of my ideology even if the cost is further suffering to my people ? As a communist, I should ignore the fact that I am able to express my opinion in public, able to sleep at night without fear because I still live in a democratic country which I’m trying my darnest to change. I can go on but I’m getting a headache.
    Some people may hate America…but not a lot. Case in point, we have so many illegal aliens, it’s our major problem. People are risking their lives to get here… in droves. Just look at the long lines at the US embassy. Your youth emulate ours…listen to their music, how they dress. Your masa adores Sam Milby, a half american even if his talents are mediocre(sorry, Sam). I can go on but like I said..headache on the way.

  20. Maya said,

    January 16, 2007 at 7:36 pm

    to stoxbnx3: Reading my previous post, I came to the conclusion that I failed in realizing why America is hated by a “lot” of people. From your view point, can you tell me why we are hated again… what are you guys fighting for exactly ?

  21. Claire Ynayan said,

    January 16, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    Fr. Reuter has devoted his adult life loving Filipinos through thick and thin. He may be old but he is still an intelligent person. I don’t understand all that criticism that was directed at him when he supported the side he believed was telling the truth. I’m not Roman Catholic but I admire the man for his selflessness. He probably loves the Philippines more than a lot of Filipino leaders and activists do.

    I’m a Filipina but don’t find Nicole’s testimony credible either…too many inconsistencies. And the lynch mob that’s ganging up on a 21 year old boy does not do much for Philippine dignity.

  22. stoxbnx3 said,

    January 17, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    maya: that is the question of most americans. you are often lost why other nations hate you so, because you think your country is the savior of the world. have you ever thought about what really happened in lebanon? in iraq? in afghanistan? in kuwait? sure, you’ve heard a lot about the fight against terrorism, but have you also dared question the truthfulness of what has been fed to you? remember, america owns the world’s biggest media companies, as well as most of the world’s most advanced information technology. there is immense power in that. i am not an anti-american, but i do not believe either, as most people do, that your country is the savior of the world.

  23. Claire Ynayan said,

    January 17, 2007 at 11:41 pm

    To add to Dude Labo’s comments, no. 18 above, regarding Judge Pozon’s declaration that he saw no reason why he should not believe Nicole: a number of others would also appreciate being enlightened on that score. It would help ease a lot of people’s anxiety and worry that a young boy is being sent unjustly to life in prison. One reason why I was surprised with the judge’s statement was that Nicole’s own lead lawyer, state prosecutor de los Santos, had called Nicole and mom ingrates and accused them of lying from the start, “Ingrata! Sinungaling sa simula’t sapul! Kailan sila naging consistent?”. That was not presented in the court hearings but it was all over the media. Judge Pozon could not have missed that.

    There’s also Nicole’s not remembering exactly how many men allegedly raped her in the van. First she accused several men of physically assaulting her. She told Subic bike patrolmen Noel Paule , “sabi ko sa kanila, tama na, tama na, pero sige pa rin sila”. She first set the number at six. Then it was reduced to four when two of the men proved that they were not in the van. Then it was subsequently changed to only one man Smith allegedly raping her while the other three were conspirators who allegedly cheered Smith on. Judge Pozon ended up acquitting three, and that was announced at the same court session when Judge Pozon declared he believed Nicole. It just boggles the mind.

    When patrolman Paule found Nicole at the Alava Pier shortly after the marines dropped her off, Nicole embraced him and told him not to leave her–“Dito ka lang, huwag mo akong iwan. Pag nalaman ito ng Mama ko, papatayin ako.” I find it odd that only minutes after allegedly being raped by male strangers, that she would easily embrace another male stranger. After a rape, the victim usually feels taken advantaged of and soiled. I would think the last thing she would have needed at that moment is to touch another male. After the verdict, she even wanted to visit Smith at the jail. Talk about aversion.

    The driver of the van told his story in an article in a December 11, 2006, in the Philippine Star, and explained that he was not asked by the defense to testify. He corroborated the marines’ testimony, but unfortunately this was after the trial. Note Atty. Ursua trying to threaten him. http://www.philstar.com/philstar/show_content.asp?article=291619
    One TV report mentioned that he had to go into hiding. I think he is another victim in this case.

  24. wondering said,

    January 18, 2007 at 5:14 am

    A filipina was raped by 17 men in kawait not long ago, Not one article has since appeared in any papers , there have been no protests, no womens groups burning flags, screaming for justice in the streets. Not a web site justice for that filipina anywhere to be found. This case was never about rape, it was all about hatred toward americans. Call it as you like, smith and nicole were used as the fuse. Who cares what jail smith is sitting in, the american taxpayers have to flip the bill not the filipinos, They want the VFA, then they pay. Concentrate on cleansing the country of terrorists and fight corruption. The united states isnt the worlds savior, but they do try to help. The filipines just put a major dent in the abu sayaf network with the help of the americans. This is in every filipine newspaper. All I read about is protesters burning american flags, the VFA, I though we were here to discuss the Nicole- Smith case. I’m not a racist, I don’t care where smith spends his days, I would imagine that if he is put in an american jail big Bubba will be waiting for him and who pays for his food, cloths, medical,,, the american taxpayers.

  25. maya said,

    January 18, 2007 at 8:49 am

    First off, I want to thank the moderators of this blog for allowing me to voice my opinion even when it’s contrary to what you stand for and even when it really has nothing to do with the case anymore like what I’m about to discuss with stoxbnx3. That shows a lot of class.

    To stoxbnx3: You said, ” have you also dared question the truthfulness of what has been fed to you? remember america owns the biggest media companies…” See this is where you need to do a little bit more research. The biggest media is owned by a single man…a corporation( Murdock, his name is, I believe) not by the US government. You obviously haven’t been to the US or if you have, you really didn’t pay much attention to our news media…you’ll like them, they’re very anti government. Since it’s owned by a corporation, their allegiance is not to the US or any government but to the almighty dollar. Please don’t mistake my country with communist China, they’re the ones that control their media.
    You said,” you are often lost why other nations hate you so, because you think you’re the savior of the world.” This is funny…thanks for making me laugh. You made it sound like we’re all here wallowing in self pity wondering why the world hates us so. Sometimes, I think most of us wish for that…then maybe people will stop coming here…legally or otherwise. I also sensed a note of ENVY from you…is that it ? Here’s a few more things you need to research: SUPER POWER and ROMAN EMPIRE. Bad news for you is we’re both right now. The good news for you is, the Roman empire eventually crumbled…unfortunately for you(again), it’s not gonna be in your lifetime.

    As far as the countries we’re “policing”- I’ll talk about Iraq and Afghanistan. We hit Afghanistan because it was harboring an enemy that attacked us…pure and simple. The US government and it’s people are united on that one. If that’s you’re idea of policing then so be it. We have the right to defend our nation. We’re divided on Iraq but when push comes to shove, we will be united. Iraq is a product of our leaders’ idealism of a better world (see, I don’t eat everything I’m “fed”). It will take sometime but it will get there. As far as the Philippines goes,…read the latest headline on the inquirer about the death of Solaiman…need I say more? You want us out…kick us out. You guys are benefitting from this more than we are ( case in point: we cancelled the joint exercises over the custody of one accused insignificant marine). We can be there as friends now…or we’ll come back as your enemies later on when your country is over run by communists and other insurgents…your choice. Here’s another good read: Hx of ISLAM and the CRUSADES. It might change your perspective. Nice blogging with you stoxbnx3(goodness, you had to make your name really hard to type)!!

  26. dude labo said,

    January 18, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    Claire Ynagan Thank you for offering more insights on how Pozon’s verdict has puzzled people like me. You maybe right that Soriano the driver may have been the victim here. A sad reality in the pathetic judicial system where small poor people who happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time in witnessing a crime or alledge crime are always subjected to abuse and harrassment even death when protagonist are powerfull people are involve.

    Rearding Fr. Reuter’s, I believe that his years of experience in dealing with people as a priest has earned him a notch above when it comes to judging people’s character.

    Compared to Mr. Pozon who told the press that his decision to convict Smith was based on seeing in Nicole his wife and daugther only showed he is biased and hopefully that he did not have that sentimental emotional attitude at the onset of the case. Clearly it is the letter of the law and factual evidence that must prevail in any judgement and if the judge can openly admit to his bias and for Nicole’s supporters to applause said mental state only weakened their quest for justice.

    Rape is rape, anyone can be a victim even prostitutes but one has to accept the fact that rape is a case that is hard to prove and makes it more difficult if it involves one with questionable moral standards and the circumstance sorrounding the event.

    I was upset when I heard the news about this incident on how these marines treated a woman with utter disrespect in dumping her with her pants half way down in public at that is outrageous. An act unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman and in a foreign country at that is unnacceptable and they should be made answerable for their misdeeds. Their misdeeds will of course create animosity and hatred among the population and rightly so fueled another anti-american outburst with some sectors bordering on xenophobic rants. That I concede is morally wrong but the big question is was she raped? Based on her inconsistent declaration and wholesale accusations where everyone at the site including eyewitnesses are accused of the alledged crime only shows how inept and lazy are the Philippine investigators.

    I am not justifying the marines for their disrespectfull actions, no excuse whatsoever but I also accept the fact that you can’t demand respect in an environment where respectability is nowhere to be found. Whenever a big concentration of US military personnell on R&R in thirld world countries are they act as magnet for prostitution. To be accused of rape is another story and if it happens that it was an act of a scorned woman then justice was not served. This maybe a case of injustice, a punishment for an imagined crime sending an innocent man with a verdict not grounded on reasonable doubt but on a biased judge to quench the mobs thirst for blood and revenge for their disrespect to a Filipina woman.

    In Ms. See’s other article she justified Nicole’s demeanor and her mom’s insistence on going with other marines on vacation at Subic because they are “promdi” (from the province) thus their “naivette”. A naive “unsophisticated” Nicole who seems to be scandalized at the sight of other woman sitting on a gentlemans lap seems to prove that point. What is puzzling is why was she not scandalized at her own demeanor when she danced with a stranger and allegedly flirted with Smith don’t seem like she is one “naive promdi” after all? Was it her naivette that she did not notice that the bar she just went in has in-house “bar girls” where even the security guards act as pimps while on duty tells you what kind of establishment that is? If she was looking for her knight in shining armor that will swept her off her feet, it was the wrong place and inappropriate place to find one, besides she already has an American boyfriend. Women who go to bars acting the way she did are mostly free lance prostitutes or loose good time girls who wants to get “lucky” and the chances of her being treated as one is most likely than being treated or mistaken for a Mother Teresa is very unlikely. It is obvious that she was seen as one when one of the marines uttered the B word in disposing of her which elicited an angry tantrum of denial from Nicole, could this be the reason why she accused them of gang rape? If the tetimonies of the marines were given any weight it would explain why she was dumped the way she was.

  27. wondering said,

    January 19, 2007 at 3:04 am

    That was nicely said Maya, this one kills me,,,to wondering: not only is Atty. Ursua a private lawyer; she is, more than anything else, a Filipino, who does not want to see her country being trampled on by imperialists…. Three bombs just went off in mandanao, Two top abu sayaf leaders were just killed by joint efforts of filipine and american forces. The day after I walked thru a makati mall a bomb went off, Gee, I missed getting killed by one day. And now we are talking about imperialism, sounds like ATTY. Ursua needs to get her priorities right and by the way, INTEGRITY is honoring an international treaty, not trying to find ways to weasel out . Has Nicole gotten on with her life now abroad as she planned or is ATTY. Ursua still holding her captive while she fights the american government? Without Nicole her fight is over so you tell me just how much she cares. Thank you

  28. Tina said,

    January 19, 2007 at 6:05 am

    OMG. well said maya. That was pretty good! very astute. Now, what you are about to hear is a reply from a rationalizing kid. We should call this topic. SMACKDOWN. I feel bad for the Pro-slut fan club.

  29. Tina said,

    January 19, 2007 at 6:07 am

    Now that Abu Sulaiman is dead, what will the Americans be getting out of this? They keep saying.. No friendship, just interest. Now Tell us, what is it for us that makes the U.S. looks so bossy and arrogant?

  30. Bebe said,

    January 19, 2007 at 1:36 pm

    In my personal opinion, just my view i know lots will react =) it is no longer focus on Nicole so called “raped” but this is more focus about hatred. Filipinos cs. americans. Too bad =)

  31. Yanig said,

    January 20, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    I was reading an old article about Judge Pozon. Its titled “Makati judge feels he did right in Nicole’s case” . Pretty good article. I can see why Judge Pozon would feel he did right. He did what he feel is right, not did what is Right. This goes to what is Called “letter of the Law, Spirit of the Law” . It is really hard to be in his shoes. Imagine what he is gonna go thru when he ruled in favor of smith. All these organizations will all up in his butt. Imagine what his kids will go thru. He was in a no win situation but I bet you he did what is going to benifit him or be the safest for him and his family. Reading the article it was also mention that when he was writing his historic decision he almost shed a tear.
    Judge, I know your job is hard but if you are put in that position and you accepted that position, do not involve yourself emotionly. You are messing with people’s lives that way.
    Judge also stated: “Both of them, the complainant and Smith, are very young. And I am a father, and I also have children, so it was really very hard to decide,” said the father of three”
    What can you comment on this?

    “Nicole said that hours after the decision was handed down, she found it hard to sleep and had to deal with mixed emotions.
    What are those emotions? Do I sense guilt from someone?

    She said Smith seemed far too young to waste decades of his life in jail. But at the same time, she said, she wondered how she would feel if Pozon had acquitted Smith.
    If she was really raped, then she won’t have to worry, wouldn’t she?

    “That’s what I kept thinking about the whole night,” she said. “If he had been acquitted, then I am the one who would be pitied. But I’m only human. I felt sorry for him when I saw him.”
    Now , if the case doesn’t smell fishy to you, I don’t know if you ever tasted fish before but if it’s right in front of you.

    Anne, Apology on that. But if the case is proving Nicole a slut rather than proving she was rape and we are going by testimonies like how the rape case went, then Nicole will be proven as a slut. Now if there is a Bantay Karapatan group, then They should be supporting Smith Also because Smith has KARAPATAN as much as Nicole has. When you think of rights, you should think about equality. Every rights nicole wanted was given to her after the rape. Winning the case got nothing to do with rights. She complained and she got it. She took it to court, she got it (Even though it was said, it was no case). Winning is not a Right unless it was decided without bias or pressure (gunpoint).
    Now can it be honestly say, the decision was unbias.

  32. Yanig said,

    January 20, 2007 at 3:35 pm

    What is the U.S. getting from helping out Philippines?”

    they get to project political, economic, and military power in southeast asia (japan nor korea not being southeast asia — check your geography)… the rest is detail. check out the white papers of the state department and the defense department — i’ll stand by that (akala ninyo they’re here because of the goodness of the hearts of those in the pentagon, on capitol hill, or 1600 pennsylvania avenue?)
    Sounds like a true Anti-American here.

    HAHAHAHAHA! Oh my gosh… This was soo funny, I must be really slow. This just kicked me. WOW! Would you rather have a nuclear weapon in the hands of a Democratic Country than a Communist Country. A rationalizing kid would say.. Neither… Right.. But if you only have one choice between the two, who would you pick? that is if you are in the right mind.
    Now let me see. I remember when The USS Independence pulled into the Philippines in 1996. Wow! The Americans (sailors) was averaging 2 millions dollars of spending a day which actually BENIFITED the economy. Feed some of the prostitutes that was hanging out in Pasig, Ermita, Subic and their families. Im suprise none of them yelled rape.
    Even a Humanitarian benifits from doing something good for others. It’s heart Fulfillment and it benifits. (I feel good helping others) does benifit your well being.
    Guam is stable because of tourism and good relations.
    You will notice that all countries that have good presence of U.S. Military and good exposure on U.S. political economy has somewhat stable economy. hmmmmm
    The Japanese are Giving the U.S. money to have a Military Bases in japan, while back then The U.S. gave the Philippines money to have military bases there. Oh not to mention the U.S. Advance paid the Philippines to stay there and the Philippines kicked the U.S. out early. Now, where did the money go? And how was the economy then compared to now? Maybe? affected a little?
    Too much Pride, Not enough Solution. tsk tsk tsk.

  33. Yanig said,

    January 20, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    Good Thing VFA. Can you Imagine if there was no VFA in the Philippines? Imagine if Smith was treated like Timoteo Soriano? But wait! Mr. Soriano was a Witness, can you Imagine if he was a suspect. Can you Imagine if Smith can’t be supported by the US. Can you imagine being in another country with no agreement what so ever and you were treated like Timoteo Soriano or think of the worst. Comtemplacion. You don’t need any agreement for a very non-corrupted country like the Philippines. Nah.. Not at all.

  34. January 22, 2007 at 1:25 am

    yanig,

    re: accusation of being anti-american — barking up the wrong, tree, dude. i’ve never been anti-american. in my mind i’ve always separated american foreign policy from my views on the american people. i’ve found that folks from middle america are generally genteel, law-abiding, patriotic, and law-abiding (who would certainly NOT countenance sexual assault)

    re: “Would you rather have a nuclear weapon in the hands of a Democratic Country than a Communist Country.” i thought for a second that you checked your geography — name the southeast asian communist country possessing nukes. if you say north korea, i suggest you go back to your middle-school geography lessons (and while you’re at it, english 101).

    more to the point, i believe it to be an act of supreme hypocrisy that a country invades another under the pretext of imagine weapons of mass destruction while it itself possesses the deadliest arsenal of WMDs on the planet and has made no moves to disarm. (check out the stalled SALT and START talks, plus the six-party talks wherein this country itself does NOT commit to reduce its own stockpile.) argue with me using logic, dude, not rationalization.

    re: USS independence and “feeding prostitutes” in 1996 — in the US, soliciting is a crime; ergo, those who went on a “feeding prostitutes” spree committed what in the US are considered crimes. condoning law-breaking is a good thing, you think?

    re: “Humanitarian benifits” (sic) — during the debate on the stay of the US bases, the US government withdrew the Peace Corps, in what was widely viewed as a squeeze play to convince those opposed to the bases to change their minds. Now, if the US government was truly humanitarian in outlook, they would NOT have withdrawn these humanitarians because of a country’s opposition to the US government’s geopolitical outlook. Not to mention, that is, the squeeze plays using the World Bank and American investors. Call it what you will — what it was in truth was no less than extortion.

    re: “The U.S. gave the Philippines money to have military bases there.”– read your history. the US government did NOT pay rent for the bases in the philippines, dude. the existence of the US bases in the philippines began from the time the US bought the philippines from spain for 20 million dollars (is this the advance payment you speak of? it went to spain, dude, not the katipunan), continued long through the second world war and into the time the philippines became the commonwealth. call it what you will, but in the parallel between the british and hong kong and the US government and the philippines, the philippines got the short end of the stick.

    the money you probably speak of was military aid… mostly in the form of aged, decrepit, vietnam war-era hardware — cast-offs and rejects. there is absolutely no parallel with such aid as opposed to the aid such as f-14s and M1A1s given to israel, patriot batteries to taiwan, or aegis systems to japan.

    re: “Can you Imagine if there was no VFA in the Philippines?” i certainly can. equal protection and equal legal process would be between filipino and foreigner — a concept that is supported by international law and derided by those who would rather be slaves or sycophants.

  35. only one thief said,

    January 22, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    The only thief here is Nicole. She has falsely accused a young man of a crime that didn’t happen. She was the agressor and started everthing that happened. Why would she go with 4 men into a van? Why would she be dirty dancing all night with the accused? Why would she kiss the accused all over his neck for most of the evening? Why did she help put on the condom? Why would she be mad when it didn’t last very long because he had a curfew and had to get back to the ship? Why would she go back to the bar looking for the accused when she knew he had gone back to the ship? Why if she was ” unconscious” does she remember everything that she said happened? Why did she wait so long to go to police and the hospital? Who said he wasn’t as drunk as her and she raped him? I’m really confused here.

  36. Tina said,

    January 23, 2007 at 6:29 am

    Hahahhaah That is a laugh.. An equal protection and equal legal process would be between Filipino and Foreigner. Now that is classic. I guess philippines is not that corrupt that everybody is equal. Wow wow wee. that is a classic.

  37. Justice Seeker said,

    January 24, 2007 at 7:27 am

    the jester-in-exile,

    re: i’ve found that folks from middle america are generally genteel, law-abiding, patriotic, and law-abiding (who would certainly NOT countenance sexual assault)

    You are very correct in that observation. This description also includes Daniel Smith.

  38. Tina said,

    January 24, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    Yanig, my olde shipmate. Don’t react so much. Jester missed a lot of things there. Its okey bro, live with it.

  39. Melba said,

    January 25, 2007 at 1:43 am

    It is a sad analogy to allow a convicted rapist go scot-free just for a generic notion that the US led forces are the very reason why the Philippines will be free from terrorist attacks. I never realized the presence of a pervasive assumption that our Armed Forces are incurably incompetent and paraphlegic to defend the entire Filipino citizenry from the furious attackes of terrorism and the like. Pitiful, but I remember they got the biggest chunk of the country’s budget.

    Truth remains, as there are terrorists so are the breathing presence of the Imperialists. Why else does one American President feel like he is the president of world? He, who has the penchant to meddle in other country’s affairs, claiming basic rights to bomb, extinguish, even hang alleged enemies of the state not his own, undermining the lives of hapless, innocent civilians who are caught in the middle of a more confusing war more than they can ever comprehend.

    So, if the super president can help send a condemned President to be hanged unceremoniously, what more allow his young boy go scot-free from rape?

    Well, a few days ago an armed and intoxicated US soldier was in bar somewhere in General Santos City. He caught the ire of the media community and local folks when he hurt one of the mediamen present. That is loathesome! When interviewed, an official of our Department of Foreign Affairs laughed off the issue saying “it is a Non-story”. That answer irked me even more.

    Imagine, lest they face another VFA-related controversy, DFA officials just laugh off these scandalous acts. Haay. How I wish that guy be the next victim of such stupidity.

    For all her struggles in winning and keeping “Nicole’s” case afloat and for all what they have been through Atty. Evalyn Ursua and Nicole are the surest victims of Imperialism. Believe it or not, that is beyond hypothesis. Furthermore, contrary to wondering’s belief, Atty. Ursua is not holding “Nicole” captive, rather it is the thought that “Nicole” would rather be mum and go on with her life is the one actually scourging and crucifying. But of course, Atty. Ursua will never allow that to befell Nicole and to any of her clients.

    Going back to the Imperialists, how I wish they will fight terroristic battles from their country so as not to divert the venue of the war they have created.

  40. UPn student said,

    January 26, 2007 at 7:15 pm

    The Daniel Smith vs “Nicole” case will be tried or reviewed by the Philippine Court of Appeals. I suppose the testimony of the driver will, this time, be submitted as evidence.
    What do you think the Philippine court of Appeals will decide?

  41. Yanig said,

    January 27, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    Gosh, I over estimated you Jester. Check your geography and see how fast can a Naval Ship Get to North Korea from the Southeast Area. Before you say something, I have been there and done that.
    Projecting Military Power in the Southeast Asia Region does pose a Military Deterant to the Northeast Asian Countries. I never said, North Korea is in Southeast Asia. Now, I enjoy my English. Why do I need to take English 101 when I am making 6 figures a year in a bad year. Not just because your English is better makes you a better person and knows more facts. Jesus Christ Never Spoke English … or did he? hmmmm

    Now on the ex-U.S. Bases in the philippines
    In 1965, the U.S. revised the criminal jurisdiction provisions of the bases agreement to conform to the NATO status-of-forces formula–an agreement that had fully satisfied the sovereignty concerns of American allies in Europe. The following year, U.S. Secretary of State Dean Rusk and Philippine Foreign Minister Narciso Ramos initialed an accord that formally ratified the Bohlen-Serrano understanding of 1959, thereby setting the termi- nation date of the bases agreement for 1991. Full Philippine sovereignty over the American bases was reaffirmed on two other occasions during the 1970s: the first, in a joint communiqu6 between Presidents Gerald Ford and Ferdinand Marcos dated December 7, 1975; the second in a joint communiqU6 between President Marcos and Vice President Walter Mondale issued on May 4, 1978. The latter communiqu6 also signalled forthcoming major revi-sions in the U.S.-Philippines Bases Agreement. What those revisions involved was revealed in the amendments that were made public on January 7, 1979. One of the most enduring disagreements involved the issue of compensation to the Philippines for the bases. While the original agreement gave the U.S. use of the bases “rent-free,” it was clear that the Philippine government expected to receive and, in fact, did receive some kind of “compensation.” The U.S.-Philippine Military Assistance Agreement of,1947, signed just one week after the bases accord, was considered by Washington and Manila, at least in part, compensation for U.S. use of the bases.
    Do you want to know more? Trust me, you don’t want to know what i know. it can limit you from leaving the country for certain number of years.

    “more to the point, i believe it to be an act of supreme hypocrisy that a country invades another under the pretext of imagine weapons of mass destruction while it itself possesses the deadliest arsenal of WMDs on the planet and has made no moves to disarm. (check out the stalled SALT and START talks, plus the six-party talks wherein this country itself does NOT commit to reduce its own stockpile.) argue with me using logic, dude, not rationalization”
    I’m so sorry, am I reading this right? An Islam extremist, suspected to posses WMD. A group who was taught to kill in order to go to heaven. Instead of group (Christians) who is taught to love to go to heaven.
    Oh NO NO. This does not make you sound Anti-American

    re: “Humanitarian benifits” (sic) — during the debate on the stay of the US bases, the US government withdrew the Peace Corps, in what was widely viewed as a squeeze play to convince those opposed to the bases to change their minds. Now, if the US government was truly humanitarian in outlook, they would NOT have withdrawn these humanitarians because of a country’s opposition to the US government’s geopolitical outlook. Not to mention, that is, the squeeze plays using the World Bank and American investors. Call it what you will — what it was in truth was no less than extortion.”
    When I was explain about a humanitarian act, I meant Humnitarian as in like what a Nun would do. Even a nun benifits from doing humanitarian deeds. they feel good inside and points for them to enter the Kingdom they believe in. I wasn’t referring to the U.S. NOW, That does not make you sound Anti-American.
    Now, would you send your kid to my house if I can’t guarantee that my kid won’t beat up on your son? Now can you guarantee the safety of my men when they get in trouble? Free from corruption, free from bias, free from mistrial? Why do you think there is a VFA?

    The USS Independence feeding the Prostitues, was a joke. If you notice i said “nobody yelled rape”. The main point is that it helped out the Economy, but a smart guy like you did not miss all that, right?

    re: “Can you Imagine if there was no VFA in the Philippines?” i certainly can. equal protection and equal legal process would be between filipino and foreigner — a concept that is supported by international law and derided by those who would rather be slaves or sycophants.”
    Wow Philippines, guaranteeing Equal protectin and equal legal process would be between Filipino and Foreigner. Now this is the funniest thing i have ever heard. Telling me when I have so many lawyer friends in the Philippines tell me how there is just the opposite of what you just said. That is just sweet

    MELBA, who said Daniel Smith is Free?
    Also go find out, how many Philippine Military Officers lives in Squatter areas. Gives you an Idea how someone who is getting ready to die for his country, yet, they pay these people cheese. How much of yourself can you give in the protection of your country? You can call them incompetent.
    About this mediaman, where you there when it happened? Where you there during the interrogation of the suspect? Did you find all the facts or read it from a media center?

    “Going back to the Imperialists, how I wish they will fight terroristic battles from their country so as not to divert the venue of the war they have created”
    HAHAHAHAHAHA… Now wait… hahahahahahha.. okey okey okey… Now, most terrorist who goes to U.S., Philippines, Bali, etc. are not trained in the U.S…. buwahahahahhaa.. okey okey… Now, would you rather fix the source or deal with the effects. hahahaha.. hoo hoo. Okey okey.. Now I was thought, to stop the bleeding, I should put direct pressure, not wipe the blood trail. hahahahahahahaha

    Just a question and I am not clear with the answer. Why is Mindanao not an independent country when it has been asking to break-off from the Philipines?

    Wow, I didn’t know POTUS was the judge for Saddam’s Hanging. That was news to me. The U.S. did not rally like the Anti-Americans and the Women’s Rights Group during the execution.

  42. mrumr said,

    January 28, 2007 at 7:18 pm

    whether we like it or not, smith should be in the custody of america because our Law is conjugated with VFA. VFA entered in our Law and we shall be abide it. kahit pagbalik baliktarin mo ang ating batas ay masusunod pa rin ang VFA kasi parang exclusive na nakadikit sa ating batas ang VFA. Smith was conviced by wrong judgement and that is the truth. Soon, Smith will be blessed by his acquittal. More power to Daniel Smith.

  43. melba said,

    January 29, 2007 at 3:12 am

    only one thief: i believe your confusing stems from not being enlightened by facts. perhaps, you can begin reading now for better comprehension

  44. Tina said,

    January 31, 2007 at 3:09 pm

    Anymore News about this? Or the operator of this site is sleeping?

  45. TK said,

    February 5, 2007 at 8:23 am

    Nothing new? I guess the admin of this site has what others don’t: A life (which isn’t bad if you have one, believe it or not)

  46. only one thief said,

    February 5, 2007 at 8:53 pm

    Sorry Melba, I know all the facts. I got the real story from someone who knows for sure. Reading Phil papers written by left wingers, does not mean the facts are correct. They write what the leftys want to hear and embelish the story to sell papers. Most of what was written was purely speculation. The only people who know the story for sure are the four marines, the driver, and Suzette. Unfourtunately, Suzette is the pawn for the leftys who want to drive Americans out of your country so they can run everything. It’s truly sad that this young man has to go through this political crap for nothing.

  47. wondering said,

    February 14, 2007 at 1:16 am

    I read the supreme court junked Atty. Ursuas petition to scrap the vfa. The united states is now building roads, schools, and hospitals to help the people of sulu …

  48. melba said,

    February 21, 2007 at 12:15 pm

    Well, that doesn’t erase the fact that one of these soldiers was convicted of rape.

  49. lyla said,

    February 23, 2007 at 7:09 pm

    Correction please: WRONGFULLY and UNFAIRLY convicted of rape.

  50. wondering said,

    February 24, 2007 at 1:24 am

    You are right on that one melba, amazing the grief one lieing women can cause to another person. It’s really sad. May god bless you all.

  51. melba said,

    March 4, 2007 at 2:06 am

    well, i’m also amazed at the fact that you can never conceived how smith also manipulated and exploited the colonial consciousness of some Fililipinos leading you to think that he could never lie and act to the hilt even if he truly raped Nicole.

    But of course, you refuse to even give that a thought. You can’t even give a more sound hypothesis as to why Nicole should lie under oath in the first place, simply, because she did not.

  52. Tina said,

    March 6, 2007 at 8:34 pm

    Just wondering… where is the Women’s rights Group? James Yap (Kris Aquino’s Husband) said to have sexual Relationship with a desk receptionist. Nobody believed her. She needs the Women’s Rights Groups Support. Where are they? Oh yah, that’s right… James Yap Ain’t White.

  53. wondering said,

    March 8, 2007 at 4:52 pm

    Lets not forget the priest that was accused of rape also, they never posted my article here, that’s right, he wasnt white either he was just a filipino. It never made the news twice. Nicole did not just lie under oath, Nicole lied to everyone, even her own friends and family.

  54. makarena said,

    March 10, 2007 at 7:43 am

    i believe that, when it comes down to it, “nicole” wasn’t really raped. of course, that’s just me.

  55. Tina said,

    March 11, 2007 at 4:50 am

    News Flash Melba, I used to Believe Nicole.
    Why should Nicole Lie? Have you been reading The posts?

    What will happen if your fiance finds out you have been sleeping around?
    What would be a good way of getting revenge when you get dumped are you got tapped?
    So why is nicole’s story inconsistent?
    How many times nicole’s story changed?

    NO! Nicole has no reason to Lie.

  56. Emily said,

    March 16, 2007 at 9:01 pm

    To: TOWNS ( need your help)
    50-anyos na ama, gumahasa sa tatlong anak
    March 16, 2007

    Kalaboso ang isang 50-anyos na ama matapos i-reklamo ng panggagahasa ng kanyang tatlong anak sa Novaliches, Quezon City.

    Nabuko ang pang-aabusso ng suspek na si Felipe Gonzales nang siya ay ma-aktuhang pinagsa-samantalahan ang kanyang onse anyos na anak sa loob ng kanilang bahay sa Brgy. Gulod.

    Natuklasan pa sa imbestigasyon ng pulisya na hindi rin nakaligtas sa hayok na suspek ang dalawa pa nitong anak na babae kung saan inamin ng mga ito na maging sila ay biktima ng panghahalay ng sariling magulang.

  57. Melba said,

    March 17, 2007 at 8:19 am

    Tina, Tina… that’s old news… and sorry a ludicrous and old-fashioned analysis of events.

    I believe it’s about time you read about the effects of rape on the victims so you’ll better understand.

  58. TK said,

    March 21, 2007 at 7:09 am

    “Just wondering… where is the Women’s rights Group? James Yap (Kris Aquino’s Husband) said to have sexual Relationship with a desk receptionist. Nobody believed her. She needs the Women’s Rights Groups Support. Where are they? Oh yah, that’s right… James Yap Ain’t White.”

    the “white guy” got only 40 years…
    Yap married kris. He’s serving a life sentence already.
    Maybe that’s why Gabriela went easy on him.
    Poor guy.

  59. Tina said,

    March 21, 2007 at 10:33 pm

    Emily, He is not white… Melba failed to see the point.. I pity Her.. tsk tsk tsk.. Oh Melba.. what rape? Is the real issue is rape? so why is this Forum focusing on other things than rape?
    Its open your eyes, please..

  60. lyla said,

    March 27, 2007 at 5:51 pm

    Melba says,” I believe it’s about time you read about the effects of rape on the victims…”

    REAL victims of rape sustain grave psychological trauma requiring years of therapy. None of them would want to relieve any situation that lead to the crime against them, I assume. Why is it, then, that according to reliable sources, “Nicole” is back on the party scene, trolling bars out there in Manila ? Wasn’t that the reason why she got into these mess in the first place? Two theories I’ve been toying with for the answer:

    1. She has one h*ll of a therapist to “heal” her so quickly.
    2. She lied about being raped.

  61. Wondering said,

    April 3, 2007 at 1:16 am

    I see we are back to the effects of rape BS again, as if we are too stupid to know, Nothing has been said about the innocent man sitting in jail over Nicoles lie. I think some of you need to read over the facts of the case and open your eyes for a change. How gullible can you people be. It must be an everyday thing for a young woman to get in a van with 4 men, nothing wrong with that at all.

  62. Melba said,

    May 6, 2007 at 9:10 am

    Lyla, all I know is that it is always wiser to READ first before coming up with unsupported theories especially on profiling a rape victim and the process of healing. I remember the internet provide free info on these things better yet consult a specialist on this matter

    Wondering… not much is said of him…that’s because he’s no innocent man after all…Hahaha! How gullible can you be!

  63. wondering said,

    May 23, 2007 at 10:41 pm

    The most gullible person is this case was the judge Pozon. Any fool can see both parties were at fault. Smith took the fall regardless. Nicole was never held accountable for her actions. She walked away labeled a victim. I wanted to see a fair trial but that did’nt happen, Soriano was conveniently kept from testifying. So after all, it is very possible an innocent man is sitting in jail.

  64. Yanig said,

    May 27, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    So, If LCPL Dan Smith is No Innocent man.. then where is he now?????????? hmmmmmmmm……. if you think he is always behind bars…. how gullible can you be?

  65. Mary said,

    July 29, 2007 at 12:53 pm

    Anybody in the know, can you pls give update on whereabouts of Dan Smith now. Is he still in Phil island?

  66. Melba said,

    August 7, 2007 at 6:16 am

    of course, smith is not behind bars…. whoever gave you that idea? hahahaha! the only gullible creatures are the one who think they made a fool out of those who already know.

  67. Real Justice said,

    November 3, 2007 at 1:41 am

    2 years ago…..so where are all the “supporters” now Nicole? Where are the protesters and all the people who care so much about you? Hmmm just as I suspect.

  68. Ricky David said,

    November 11, 2007 at 5:03 pm

    Down at Subic over the last few weeks with the Essex and a few other US Military ships in dock and so many sailors on shore leave it was interesting to see the hundreds and hundreds of Nicoles throwing themselves at the sailors, sitting on their laps and drinking themselves into oblivion all in the name of what they can earn from a few hours with a Sailor. Down in Pier One, a big family establishment, the management was constantly telling the girls to being so obviously sexual on the dance floor in front of everyone, the residents up near Forest Hills were maddened by the van loads on “Nicoles” being shipped in to a house rented by some sailors and one other bar on base similar to the infamous Neptune’s bar reported 123 “shortimes” (girls leaving the bar with a sailor to have sex) in one day… There is no doubt when a ship-load of Horney sailors come into town the “Nicoles” come out in force. I guess this year no one was embarrassed by being seen with their parts around their ankles… No sign of the woman’s groups trying to “rescue” all THESE “Nicoles”.

  69. FTMC said,

    February 15, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    I dont know about you guys. But me and my wife was there that night we were brought to that exact club the Marines were in by a Taxi driver that suggested us. We rented out our own Videoke room. We did not realize that it was full of Marines and Pokpoks. My wife went to the rest room and the women were saying something about puting tawas on their private parts. They were also flaunting how much money their Marine customer gave them. I took leave to see my wife and to meet up with my Navy friend over at Subic. A am an active duty US Navy and I wasn’t proud of what my Marine counterparts we’re doing. But either way if “Nicole” is on is not a prostitute, she was in the very wrong place at a very wrong time.

  70. baldo mera said,

    March 3, 2008 at 9:35 am

    the subic rape case was just part of the human rights violations that this VFA did to the people in the Philippines (of course not be disregarded, but, GMA and the gov’t did), aside from the massacres, killings, sexual abuses (recorded and not). a strong manifestation that VFA UNDERMINED the sovereignty and right to self determination of this land.

    a fake president will always appoint a fake one also. puppets of the same dress will dance together!

    what a shame! but, for a shameless fake preident with its DOJ Legal Council SIRAULO Gonzales and all others.

    the Cabinet secretaries and all alies were instructed and paid to shut their mouths and open their hands and pockets!

    then, there is no reason for this administration/regime to continue!

  71. Lyla said,

    March 7, 2008 at 3:09 am

    To Melba,

    My response may be almost a year too late but here goes… I work with victims of rape here in the US and the ones I’ve encountered never or are very hesitant to go back to the “scene of the crime” so to speak. I guess your Suzette is a special case. I think you’re the one needing a specialist at this point…it’s kind of hard to stay away from the truth and keep supporting a lie without getting too stressed out.

  72. womanat35 said,

    June 27, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    This is Melba.

    Oh well, I guess your generalization makes you feel you have the monopoly of experience journeying with abused women, to feel that you can actually judge whether or not the victim is lying.

    I pity the victims who will be placed under your care, it seems that therapy never worked on them.

  73. alex said,

    March 17, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    SHE’S IN AMERICA. Even her lawyer was surprised.

    SO MUCH FOR BEING ANTI-AMERICAN NICOLE!

  74. reyah said,

    March 17, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Gosh, what happen to your Nicole? Tsk,tsk,tsk… Every effort and sympathy for her is now in vain. I wish she will not come back to the Phillipines. After i heard the news of her withdrawal all i am thinking is that i wanted to full her hair.

  75. umbras said,

    March 18, 2009 at 1:28 am

    Ambivalence of Nicole

    Gonzalez said there was a time when Nicole wanted to remove some meaty portions in her affidavit, “indicating that she may have been in doubt of the so-called rape.”

    “In hindsight I should have entertained that. If I helped her remove those portions in her affidavit there would never have been a case,” he said.
    SHAME ON YOU MONEY GRUBBERS !!!

  76. Pete Frost said,

    March 18, 2009 at 5:49 am

    The Subic NON-Rape Case would be more accurate. Whether you choose to dis-believe “Nicoles” recantation or not, there is one UNDENIABLE truth:

    Either she was lying in 2006 or she’s lying now. Does it really matter? She played you all for fools.

    “Oh,” some of you say, “but she was drunk!” Well, so was Smith. And how is it that a woman can get drunk and drive a car and be a criminal but if she gets drunk and has sex, suddenly she’s the victim of crime??

    Women will never attain true equality until the law stops treating them like children who aren’t accountable for their actions.

  77. Josh said,

    March 18, 2009 at 11:23 am

    If you leftist loons spent as much energy protesting the corruption in your own government as you do screaming “Down with the USA”, you might actually accomplish something.

  78. Meeh said,

    March 23, 2009 at 12:51 am

    Suzette finally WOKE UP.

    It keeps getting clearer and clearer that both Smith and Suzette were USED? in this case because they are young and naive.

    Suzette was used by Gabriela, Maza, Hontiveros, Madrigal, Salonga, anti-Americans., etc.

    Smith was used by Judge Pozon and the Philippine Judiciary System.

    The Philippine DOJ must investigate Suzette’s lawyer, Evalyn Ursua, and Gabriela, Bayan Muna, etc., and find out if Ursua wanted Suzette to give false testimony.

    If proven guilty, Ursua and her groupies could go to jail from 6 years to 40 years.

    GOOD!

  79. bain said,

    April 1, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    dan smith is a good man , i hope and pray that he was innocent but i knew him and i always knew him to be a good man.
    the government over there, from what i read is sad but i hope this gets straightened out and i wish dan the best

    Let Me Make This Clear. if you werent there and u dont know, dont go crying about the suffering of a girl you dont know, in a situation you dont know that happened. The Suffering????? she could have lied as well, what about his suffering if that is the case? we cannot assume. we werent there.

    god bless you dan , good luck

  80. Sad74 said,

    October 22, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    None of these impairments knock out or compromise recursion alone. ,


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